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Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run
From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:17:54 -0400
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David, AB7E, you are totally wrong about digital modes effecting CW. This is a big problem on 40 meters during any domestic CW contest. 7040 and 5 khz on either side is unusable during any CW contest because of FT8 activity. During the NAQP CW and NA Sprint there is usually a RTTY contest going on that effects below 7040.

From AA5AU's web page :

40 meters – 7025 to 7050 kHz and 7080 to 7100 kHz, during contests 7025-7100 kHz (JA 7030-7100 kHz). (USA stations are also allowed RTTY between 7100-7125 kHz).

I'm for everyone doing there thing but I've never found digital modes that challenging from a operating standpoint because no operator skill is required to copy signals. Your computer does all the work. I've tried both and became quickly bored with it.

Jeff KU8E


On 10/25/2018 09:12 AM, Yuri Blanarovich wrote:
Who is bigot?
Nobody is arguing or opposing of technology developments and progress in ham radio. What the problem is trying to accept the "jet engine powered bicycle competing with human powered bicycles in Tour de France". Preserve "classic" categories (Phone, CW, RTTY digital - talking, Morse code, digital)
Consider keeping real licensed stations with operators present.
Rest, have "Wild" category where anything goes.

Having transgenders beating women is not progress or competition. Bigot is crap being forced on those trying to maintain sanity in competition.

Yuri, K3BU



 On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:09 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

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What do you care what the data modes are evolving into if you don't use them (even RTTY) and they don't affect the CW and SSB contests that you do use?

I don't get it.  Amateur radio is thankfully a lot broader than your definition of it, and for the most part manages to keep the various modes segregated enough to satisfy everyone.   It makes zero sense to bitch about what other people do if they aren't negatively affecting you.  That doesn't make you old, or outdated ... it makes you a bigot.

"Bigot: A /bigot/ is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own."

Dave   AB7E



On 10/23/2018 1:50 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
As we move ever closer to fully-automated data modes, the divide between data and non-data modes gets bigger.  When and if the operator becomes incidental, what will be the point of such contest QSOs - other than bragging that my software is smarter
than yours?

WSJT-X may be the "flavour of the month" now - but, next month, or certainly next year, something "better" will turn up - as the potential for "new and improved" data modes is limitless.  Some see this as progress in amateur radio and contesting - I see
it as progress in automated two-way data processing over RF.

It seems to me that any mode that is not and can not be decoded by individual contesters (people) in real-time does not truly represent amateur radio.  But what would  I know, being just an old-fashioned (outdated?) contester who keeps to
phone and CW :-)

Some will argue that we have to keep up, we can't stop progress, and that amateur radio and contesting are evolving.  I say that data modes are evolving into something
else entirely.

73,
Paul EI5DI


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