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Re: [CQ-Contest] FT4 *is* a contesting mode. Was: WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc6

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FT4 *is* a contesting mode. Was: WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc6
From: Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 19:32:19 +0300
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Road map has been FT8 -> FT4

What comes after FT4?
FT2 of course.

My FT1000 is real old !
(uneasy grin)


73,
Jukka OH6LI


ke 5. kesäk. 2019 klo 17.23 Barry (w2up@comcast.net) kirjoitti:

> Why bother with RF?  Just move it to the internet.  You can't hear it,
> anyway.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
> On 6/5/2019 6:03 AM, DXer wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I wish I could enlighten anybody, some would really benefit, I think. LOL
> >
> > If FT4 contesting succeeds, it will be a nice problem to have. It's still
> > too early to tell, more later.
> >
> > My first reaction/solution to the 'problem' was, 'spin' the dial, 3 kHz
> at
> > a time. It's a contest, and as with other contests, most of the band is
> > available for that short duration, albeit in 'channelized' form. Normal,
> > non-contest, FT operating outside of the FT 'watering holes' is not
> > practical, but possible. Band planning and utilization are  mine fields.
> > Every piece of spectrum real estate is 'owned', mostly by absentee
> 'owners'
> > it seems, but I digress.
> >
> > If my 'calculations' are correct, this is the 3rd attempt at developing
> an
> > FT contesting version/mode. The first, using FT8, was not very
> > efficient/effective.
> >
> > The second, first using FT4, left too little human reaction time and
> looked
> > like it was going to 'legitimize' some form of automation. It was also
> > prone to too many repeats, slowing things down substantially.
> >
> > This third one is a very good step forward. There is enough reaction time
> > for an operator to select who to call, enter the sent report, and log the
> > contact. Repeats were substantially reduced. Far from being a good
> sample,
> > I made 25 contacts in yesterday's 'contest', and only one repeat was
> needed.
> >
> > That said, I still do not think it'll replace the premiere non-radio
> > hardware assisted mode, RTTY.
> >
> > I don't foresee a CQWW FT4, even less an FT4 category in the RTTY
> edition.
> > Therefore, I don't expect Super Stations to participate in any FT4
> contest.
> > My guess is that FT4 contesting will be limited to RU/Field Day type
> events.
> >
> > FT8 'fell victim' to its own success. I would not mind FT4 contesting
> > 'suffering' the same fate.
> >
> > 73 de Vince, VA3VF
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 2:13 AM Peter Sundberg <sm2cew@telia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Please enlighten me, how is single channel contesting going to work
> >> if participation really grows and the big gun stations around the
> >> world with multi yagis and kW's decide to enter FT4 contest? Will the
> >> small pistols still be sailing the airwaves and make contacts or will
> >> they be drowned in QRM?
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Peter SM2CEW
> >>
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