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Re: [CQ-Contest] Mixed Digital Modes in HF Contests

To: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Mixed Digital Modes in HF Contests
From: Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:38:20 -0800
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There is a better contest UI out there, for Writelog:

https://writelog.com/digirite

You will notice there is some assembly involved. Don't panic, join the
Digirite group for help:

https://groups.io/g/digirite

73 jeff wk6i


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:19 AM David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
wrote:

>
> Those are my sentiments entirely.
>
> FT4 is only broken because of the UI, not the mode.  A better UI for FT4
> would solve a LOT of problems.  The sooner somebody comes up with one
> the better.
>
> Mixing modes in the same contest, whether it is mixing RTTY and FTx or
> mixing FT8 and FT4, is simply a very bad idea.  The confusion and
> disruption it causes does nothing at all to advance FTx as a viable
> contest mode.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 1/13/2020 10:34 AM, Ron Koenig wrote:
> > If FT-4 had actually been released as a Contest Mode most of the issues
> > would not exist.  Sadly, it was not and because of it there is a mess.
> > You have cross sections of people that will NOT log if they don't get a
> > RR73 (They even refused to log With RR73 when they wanted RRR and then
> 73)
> > lots of these people are Causal ops in the contests, the NIL's are
> > intentional.
> > You have people answering Contest CQ's that are not in Contest mode (If
> > FT-4 was a Contest Mode, that would not be possible) Of course, Neither
> > side can properly log these as the exchange cannot be made... Some force
> it
> > to log.... NIL
> > FT-4 is very picky about time, many Many Q's go into a loop of repeats
> > because one or both ops time has shifted a 10th, or QSB has pushed the
> > signal down just enough. Often, after wasting several cycles, one side
> will
> > force it to log.... NIL
> > I am a fan of the FT-Modes for contesting, I have high hopes that someone
> > will develop software that makes it work.
> > I am Not a fan of FT-X in RTTY RU, or any other "Mixed" contest... It
> > simply causes confusion, lowers QSO counts and causes people to make
> Silly
> > claims that their FT-X rate rivaled RTTY...
> >
> > Ron, WV4P
>
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Jeff Stai ~ WK6I ~ wk6i.jeff@gmail.com
RTTY op at W7RN
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