someone call the vet, I think this horse is dead.....
------ Original Message ------
From: "Edward Sawyer" <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
To: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>; "ku8e" <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Cc: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>; "cq-contest@contesting.com"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: 3/12/2020 12:44:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
And to further on what Ria said. The chat room was giving Ray real time
propagation feedback from operators in Europe whether they could hear him or
not. Someone else could have said (although I didn't here this in the segment
I was listening to) that he should slide up or down for a better frequency.
The interactive chatroom itself is a clear violation in my opinion.
Ed N1UR
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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 10:57 AM
To: ku8e
Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
I think the differences here between announced operations and live social
media during a contest are as follows:
Live social media says “I’m on right now” versus a general announcement
that “l’ll be on this weekend.”
The chat will list frequencies where the operator is operating. The chat is
hosted by the operator.
And the biggest one - the live stream gives real time confirmation that the
contact is good, using non-amateur means. It’s the same as if you were on a
the telephone with a speakerphone in the room and heard them call you back.
No fighting with qsb and QRM, just call in and listen online.
Ria
N2RJ
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:36 AM ku8e <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:
So I guess could you could argue that posting your planned operation on
something like NG3K is soliciting contacts? You are doing this on the
internet. Also when someone spots you on the DX Cluster someone else is
soliciting contacts for you. How many times have you spotted someone on the
DX cluster who is a friend of yours operating from the islands? I think
everyone has at some point or another. I really see no harm in doing any of
this. Same with doing a livestream. I think the intent for those who do
this is to promote contesting. Personally I don't like or operate SOA but
it's too late in the game to ban it. You also have to take into
consideration that many people who operate DX contests aren't really
hardcore contesters.I'm pretty sure that W2RE's livestream was to promote
RHR and not to try to get some competitive advantage. JeffSent from my
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Mike Smith VE9AA <
ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: 3/11/20 6:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To:
cq-contest@contesting.com Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media
and Contesting I am not a lawyer-but pretty sure this is against the rules
in most contests(soliciting QSO's outside and during the competition)
Anyways. we should all be asking ourselves what was the motivation
ofposting this video in real time VS. waiting until after the log
submittaldeadline!? (ie: If I was DX and thought *MAYBE* I worked W2RE, but
wasn'tsure, I could always review the video(log scrubbing) (or watch it in
realtime-cheating; doesn't take place on the air). As for Ray advertising
for RHR.maybe/maybe not.that doesn't impact directlyon his score per se, so
I don't care about that. I'm not against Social Media..I'm on there I have
learned lots about some ofyou and love the interaction between us, but I
don't think it belongs in aradio COMPETITON/contest. Shouldn't Radiosport
events be limited to ON-AIR interactions? (or is itnow an Internet-Radio
competition?) Let's review the rules shall we? Who's up for that? BTW, I
am all for RHR and what Ray is doing. I understand he's a good guy,doing
good work, providing a good service for pay. My comments are strictlyabout
the competition itself and rules. MIKE VE9AA Mike, Coreen & CoreyKeswick
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