Denis,
I think your scoring scheme has a critical flaw: the points for each qso
depend on basically arbitrary zone boundaries, and the zone boundaries in some
cases divide up countries with lots of entries (like the USA). For example, a
station on the western edge of zone 5 would get 3 points for working Europe in
zone 14. A station one mile away in the eastern part of zone 4 gets 4 points
for the same contact.
The IARU contest also has this problem because of the 1 point/3 points for
same/different zones. I live in western zone 8 close to zone 7. There are many
more zone 8 stations active than zone 7 stations in IARU. If I was just a
little further west my score would go up significantly.
Tor N4OGW
On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 9:13:56 PM CDT, Denis Pochuev K7GK
<k7gk@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have outlined an alternative scoring proposal for CQWW quite some time ago in
our club's newsletter. It is mostly distance-based and doesn't require any
changes to the exchange or additional grid square information.
Details are here (pages 13-17): http://nccc.cc/jug/2016/07Jul2016.pdf
I would be interested to hear opinions about this scoring scheme.
73, Denis - K7GK/6
P.S. It still doesn't address the issue of the UBNs not being available to the
scorers of contest-within-contest.
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest
WPX is kind of one of the only contests where you could do scoring on grid
locator. And even then, not so reliably. Behavior in contests is very
much points driven, and contesters make very strategic decisions based on
maximizing points. In WPX, 40 SSB from the midwest and east is a gold mine
when antennas are pointed towards EU. How you would score based on
distance could be quite different given that from New England, stations in
California aren't a heck of a lot closer than a station in the UK. But for
now, that UK station is worth 6 points versus 1 point for California.
73 Rich NN3W
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM <k5zd@charter.net> wrote:
> The grid-locator has not been removed from the CQ WW and WPX public logs.
> Not all logs included this information, but for those that did, it appears
> in their public log.
>
> The grid-locator information was just added to the contest submissions
> (and to the Cabrillo spec) in 2019.
>
> Randy K5ZD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net@contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of ko7ss--- via CQ-Contest
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:35 AM
> To: Reflector Cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest
>
> On 3/13/2020 01:01 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
>
> "your groups would be better served by using the contest weekend
> assignment and exchange and basic scoring rules as an "open source"
> activity. Sponsor your own contest within a contest that operates during
> the weekend and interfaces with the existing contesters but have your own
> set of rules. Enter as checklogs to the sponsors and see if the sponsors
> will provide all the logs to you for your own scoring and cross checking"
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> This is a very interesting idea. The CQWW and CQ WPX public logs are
> already available in Cabrillo format, the ARRL DX logs in non Cabrillo
> format.
>
> It would be interesting to see distance based scoring applied to the CQWW
> and ARRL DX contests. Most interesting would be the CQ WPX with 1 point Q X
> mults scoring.
>
> The W3KM Cabrillo evaluator could be used (?) to rescore the top 50 logs
> in each category. The only problem is the Maidenhead grid square has been
> removed from the public logs for "privacy reasons", even though a grid
> square is 500 sq miles in size.
>
> A website Realcontestscores.com could be set up.
>
> Maybe the Top Ten results would all be the same. Maybe not.
>
> Maybe when a few sunspots come back no one will care that coastal W1/2/3's
> dominate the Top Ten. For now though I am considering hiring a social media
> PR firm to promote my 2 hour 20M EU opening on 20M, Watch out W1/Maine, I'm
> coming for you next year!
>
> 73, Bill KO7SS in Arizona
>
>
>
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