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Re: [CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410
From: Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:24:02 +0500
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I have been using KX3 for many years along with K3 and FT991A here. I would not recommend KX3 although its TX is pretty clean. KX3 has very limited BDR and would be not as good as almost any superhet radio with  crystal filter.

73, Igor UA9CDC


01.04.2021 3:16, Joe пишет:
So fare we only have the three options actually now 4..
KX3 with 100 watt amp,
Ic-7300
IC-7410
Kenwood TS-430S

Best rcvr according to the page is the KX3. but how clean is that radio with it's amp?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/31/2021 5:13 PM, ku8e wrote:
No one mentioned the Kenwood TS590SG. I own one that I use as a 2nd radio. I think it's a pretty good radio. When I do SO2R with bandpass filters there doesn't seem to be any interference between it and my K3. I remember when I owned an IC756PRO2 it got into the K3 pretty good even with bandpass filters.

We also use it when we go mobile as W4AN in the QSO parties.

Jeff



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-------- Original message --------
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: 3/31/21 4:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: donovanf@erols.com, CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410

OK,

The trend I see here is pretty strong Kill the 7300.

OK how about a possible third Option?

The KX3 with it's 100 watt amp?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/31/2021 1:16 PM, donovanf@erols.com wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
>
> I don't know about the IC-7410, but the IC-7300 is about the worst
> transceiver you could ever use for Field Day unless you're planning
> a one transmitter entry.
>
> IC-7300 transmitted phase noise makes it impossible for any other
> transceiver to operate on the same band, and likely you will
> need a high quality bandpass filter to operate another transceiver
> on any another band with an antenna in proximity to the IC-7300's
> antenna.
>
>
> Its hard to beat the performance of the Elecraft K3 for a light weight.
> very low transmitted noise, high performance Field Day transceiver.
> The FTdx101D is also excellent high performance, reasonably
> light weight Field Day radio.
>
>
> If you don't have access to any of those, the trusty old FT-1000MP
> is an excellent Field Day transceiver that outperforms most modern
> radios from a transmitted noise perspective and its receiver performance
> is generally acceptable.
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Joe" <nss@mwt.net>
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 3:30:38 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] IC-7300 VS IC-7410
>
> Trying to decide which Rig to Use IC-7300 VS IC-7410.
>
> Last year Field Day was a Bust. But it looks pretty promising that this
> year it could be really close to a traditional Field Day YAY!
>
> Now In past years in my local club I am the only CW op of the group. Sad
> I know. And I'm just too old to do 24 hours single Op anymore.
>
> So in years past when a phone or digital station would be taking a break
> for whatever reason, I would sit down and use the station and make as
> many CW contacts as I could until the other Op's came back. It worked
> OK, Over the weekend Id make a few hundred CW contacts the club would
> not have had.
>
> BUT this year is Different, A new guy moved in, and he's also a CW man! > YES! So we said we will for Field Day this year make a dedicated CW station!
>
> Now we are trying to decide which of those two rigs would be best at
> Field Day?
>
> Most if not ALL rigs (most times we run 5A) have Band pass filters, like.
> https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/lbs-pb-f200-14?rrec=true
>
> And if we don't have one of those, we have many coaxial stub notches we
> can add to an offending station.
>
> So usually when we want to try to decide what Radio we want to use, if
> there is a choice, and no one really has a personal preference, we
> usually go by the Data Bob gives us at,
> http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>
> Using the Sorted by Third-Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced - or- ARRL
> RMDR (Reciprocal Mixing Dynamic Range) if Phase Noise Limited as the
> deciding factor.
>
> We are both amazed at the difference of close in spec's between these
> two radios!
> 97 for the 7300 VS only 78 for the 7410,, is it really that much
> difference!?
>
> Wow!
>
> So am I to think correctly in a Field Day setting would the 7300 be the
> better radio?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
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