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Re: [CQ-Contest] Looking up on QRZ.com

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Looking up on QRZ.com
From: Richard DiDonna <richnn3w@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2023 12:35:25 -0400
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Well how far “up” or back do we want to take this.  How about N1MM or Wintest 
that prefill 25 when you work a JA in the exchange field.  Or how about a 
prefill in NAQP that fills in Tom MD when you work K3AJ.

You could argue that they’re all guesses - which could be wrong.  

QRZ data or ULS data is presumed to be correct.  

I think looking up callsign data from the licensing authority during or after 
the contest is a bridge too far.

73 Rich NN3W

> On Jun 3, 2023, at 12:26 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> But then,  why are call history files or super check partial files not 
> illegal?  For that matter, cluster-derived spot information (even if only the 
> callsign) isn't derived from on-the-air activity by the recipient. Seems to 
> me like this is a bridge long crossed.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
>> On 6/3/2023 5:29 AM, Stanley Zawrotny wrote:
>> Looking up a callsign on QRZ can be considered assisted if the contest uses 
>> any of the information provided as part of an exchange; name or state are 
>> the most common, counties are used in state QSO parties.
>> 
>> Stan, K4SBZ
>> 
>> "Real radio bounces off the sky."
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:57 AM, Doug Bates<kv4zy.1@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Art,
>>> I don't claim to know all, but it strikes me as strange that a callsign
>>> lookup on any database could be against any rules. The nearest thing I can
>>> think of that may be anywhere near related in the rules of some contests is
>>> forbidding "Assisted" where contesters follow a cluster to find contacts
>>> that are currently reported as being on. Callsign lookup does not seem to
>>> me to be anywhere close to using a cluster to find contacts. But what do I
>>> know:)
>>> 73 & God Bless
>>> De KV4ZY
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:24 PM Art Boyars<artboyars@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On the N1MM reflector somebody asked about how to use the "QRZ" button
>>>> during the contest for calls that don't appear in the "check" window.  I
>>>> guess he was talking about the SCP or CHF data files loaded into N1MM.
>>>> 
>>>> A few people commented that looking it up on QRZ.com (or some other online
>>>> database??) during the contest was against the rules.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't see any difference between using an online databas and using SCP
>>>> and CHF (except that SCP/CHF is faster).
>>>> 
>>>> What do you wise people think?
>>>> 
>>>> 73, art K3KU
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