Re: Contest SSB Frequencies
An important point to consider, especially in SSB contests is many callers
are not, constesters, or are minimally skilled. A surprisingly large
percentage of them find it challenging to tune in our signals well. I have
seen this up close when we bring in folks new to contesting at KS5Z in
Lubbock and, of course, during GOTA operation during FD. Being on a 1 kHz
step helps them.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
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W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 8-17 Sep 2023
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> 1. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Barry Jacobson)
> 2. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Richard F DiDonna NN3W)
> 3. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Jack Brindle)
> 4. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Pete Smith N4ZR)
> 5. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Charles ?Ed? Pitts)
> 6. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Barry Jacobson)
> 7. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (pwhelton@earthlink.net)
> 8. QTCs (Jim Smith)
> 9. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Lee Hiers)
> 10. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Mike Fatchett W0MU)
> 11. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Hans Brakob)
> 12. Re: QTCs (Christian Janssen DL1MGB)
> 13. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Barry Jacobson)
> 14. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Steve London)
> 15. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Barry Jacobson)
> 16. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Pete Smith N4ZR)
> 17. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Jim Brown)
> 18. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Trent Sampson)
> 19. CTY-3326 Country Files - 17 August 2023 (Jim Reisert AD1C)
> 20. Contest SSB Frequencies (jpescatore@aol.com)
> 21. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Zack Widup)
> 22. Re: Contest SSB Frequencies (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:43:27 -0400
> From: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> To: pwhelton@earthlink.net
> Cc: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
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> You hit the nail on the head! That is why since I was a kid was so afraid
> of SSB. I wore hearing aids then. But few years back, had to get cochlear
> implant. While it is louder, but there are issues with frequency
> distortion. Have written papers on Biorxiv.org about this. Was out of ham
> radio for a while. But recently got an FTDX101D and I am really surprised
> how good the SSB audio is, despite the cochlear implant. If you get the
> sweet spot, which is usually where maximum bass is, it sounds to me almost
> as good as in person. I set radio for widest response, except maybe roll
> off below 100 Hz if I use my Heath SB-600 speaker which has deep bass. I am
> still learning SSB, and find in contests some guys use pre-recorded audio
> where they swallow their words. No matter how many times you listen to
> their call, can't get it. Very important to enunciate each syllable and
> character, especially if recording.
>
> Best,
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 12:25 PM <pwhelton@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Barry. This probably won't answer your question but I did want to
> > comment where the guy "wanted to know your exact frequency so he could
> tune
> > it better". His comment is exactly why I don't like SSB contests. To me
> > everyone sounds like a duck and I have a hard time tuning them in.
> Don't
> > get me wrong I do participate in SSB contests but they are not my
> favorite.
> >
> > As an aside on CW I usually shoot for .050 Khz (i.e.: 21.015.50,
> > 21.031.50,
> > 21.037.50, etc).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pat - KZ5J
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+pwhelton=
> earthlink.net@contesting.com
> > >
> > On Behalf Of Barry Jacobson
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:51 AM
> > To: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> >
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called
> > CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the fellow
> said I
> > am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so he
> could
> > tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in SSB and
> in
> > SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded and
> not
> > always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if that is
> > standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:44:43 -0400
> From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>
> To: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
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> Ideally yes - in reality, not even close to being possible.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 11:29?AM Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> fellow
> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so
> he
> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> SSB
> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> > about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 10:45:35 -0500
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
> To: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <FCA79850-A929-465A-B46E-D8201098B904@me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> No. We tune anywhere we can find a free frequency. Sometimes it is better
> for the responder to be slightly off frequency (as it is in CW) to make
> their signal stand out.
>
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> > On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> fellow
> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so
> he
> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> SSB
> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> > about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:50:42 -0400
> From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> To: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, reflector cq-contest
> <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <2c244e8e-3b48-e864-819d-12ef4de0af8b@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> In my opinion, you're being fed a line - in many years in ham radio I
> have never heard of any requirement or custom to use integer frequencies
> on SSB.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> On 8/16/2023 10:50 AM, Barry Jacobson wrote:
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> fellow
> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so
> he
> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> SSB
> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> > about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:48:42 -0400
> From: Charles ?Ed? Pitts <cpitts@ec.rr.com>
> To: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <791D988F-979D-423D-9EA5-534278484969@ec.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Barry my experience is not to try and use whole numbers and it usually
> results in getting and holding a clear frequency. Always have to tune and
> find that sweet spot and hope u hold it! Lol! 73 Ed K5OF
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 16, 2023, at 11:29, Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> fellow
> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so
> he
> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> SSB
> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> > about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:10:04 -0400
> From: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> Cc: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, reflector cq-contest
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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>
> Thanks very much, Richard, Jack, Ed and Pete. Seems consensus is not to
> worry about whole numbers.
>
> Best,
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 11:50 AM Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In my opinion, you're being fed a line - in many years in ham radio I
> have
> > never heard of any requirement or custom to use integer frequencies on
> SSB.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
> > On 8/16/2023 10:50 AM, Barry Jacobson wrote:
> >
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> fellow
> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so
> he
> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> SSB
> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> > about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIUbdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing listCQ-Contest@contesting.comhttp://
> lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:25:06 -0500
> From: <pwhelton@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Barry Jacobson'" <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, "'CQ-Contest Reflector'"
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <01fd01d9d05e$38795800$a96c0800$@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Barry. This probably won't answer your question but I did want to
> comment where the guy "wanted to know your exact frequency so he could tune
> it better". His comment is exactly why I don't like SSB contests. To me
> everyone sounds like a duck and I have a hard time tuning them in. Don't
> get me wrong I do participate in SSB contests but they are not my favorite.
>
> As an aside on CW I usually shoot for .050 Khz (i.e.: 21.015.50,
> 21.031.50,
> 21.037.50, etc).
>
> Regards,
>
> Pat - KZ5J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+pwhelton=earthlink.net@contesting.com
> >
> On Behalf Of Barry Jacobson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:51 AM
> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
>
> Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW. However,
> some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> called
> CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the fellow said I
> am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so he could
> tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in SSB and in
> SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded and not
> always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if that is
> standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew about.
>
> 73,
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:55:32 -0500
> From: Jim Smith <ars.kk0u@gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] QTCs
> Message-ID:
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>
> For those on the sending side of the pond, if you're not aware, Fabian DJ5W
> has a trainer here. <https://lcwo.net/qtc> You have to log in to use it,
> but it's a lot of fun.
>
> Fabian also posted a video of himself copying 50wpm QTCs typing only with
> his left thumb. <https://fkurz.net/stuff/thumb-qtc.html> Way beyond my
> pay
> grade.
>
> 73, Jim KK0U
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:10:21 -0400
> From: Lee Hiers <lee.hiers@gmail.com>
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 3:07?PM Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
>
> > Ideally yes - in reality, not even close to being possible.
>
>
> Why is it ideal to use integer frequencies??
>
> I know a lot of people (particularly, rag-chewers and nets) do, but why is
> it ideal?
>
> 73 de Lee, AA4GA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 13:14:27 -0600
> From: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <41a1eaed-9c56-e76b-3597-cafa8dd6da70@w0mu.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> It would not matter what you told him.? While some people use GPS and
> other forms to absolutely be as perfect as they can with their frequency
> read outs, most don't.? On SSB you tune for what sound the best TO YOU.?
> I have never cared what the vfo says as long as I am able to make
> contacts and not interfering too much with other contests etc.? Same on
> CW where ever it is clear I use it.? With CW you would do well in
> pileups not to zero beat the station. Being off just a bit makes you
> sound a bit different or possibly easier to pick out.
>
> Good Luck
>
> W0MU
>
> On 8/16/2023 10:25 AM, pwhelton@earthlink.net wrote:
> > Hi Barry. This probably won't answer your question but I did want to
> > comment where the guy "wanted to know your exact frequency so he could
> tune
> > it better". His comment is exactly why I don't like SSB contests. To me
> > everyone sounds like a duck and I have a hard time tuning them in.
> Don't
> > get me wrong I do participate in SSB contests but they are not my
> favorite.
> >
> > As an aside on CW I usually shoot for .050 Khz (i.e.: 21.015.50,
> 21.031.50,
> > 21.037.50, etc).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pat - KZ5J
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+pwhelton=
> earthlink.net@contesting.com>
> > On Behalf Of Barry Jacobson
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:51 AM
> > To: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> >
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> called
> > CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the fellow
> said I
> > am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so he
> could
> > tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in SSB and
> in
> > SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded and
> not
> > always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if that is
> > standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 19:33:07 +0000
> From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
> To: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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> Barry, I also have severe hearing loss, so my operations are heavy on CW,
> RTTY, digital.
>
> Because the granularity of the clusters and RBN seems to be 100Hz (?), I
> never run on ?double nuts? frequencies (ending in ????). I generally tend
> to run on QRGs ending in ?.#3?? or thereabouts. The good operators will
> tune to me and stand out in my rx away from the clumped up ?click the spot
> and transmit? automatons.
>
> 73, de Hans, K?HB
> ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
>
> 73, de Hans, K?HB
> ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on
> behalf of Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:50:50 AM
> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
>
> Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW. However,
> some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the fellow
> said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so he
> could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in SSB
> and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> about.
>
> 73,
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 21:42:00 +0200
> From: Christian Janssen DL1MGB <chris@dl1mgb.com>
> To: Jim Smith <ars.kk0u@gmail.com>, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] QTCs
> Message-ID: <3a1de371-eb7c-845f-7c8d-8092f42b5c0e@dl1mgb.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> And for those who need some training for the upcoming SSB part in
> September, I can also recommend this one:
>
> http://dl1mgb.com/contest/wae.php
>
> Have fun!
>
> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>
>
>
>
> Am 16.08.2023 um 18:55 schrieb Jim Smith:
> > For those on the sending side of the pond, if you're not aware, Fabian
> DJ5W
> > has a trainer here. <https://lcwo.net/qtc> You have to log in to use
> it,
> > but it's a lot of fun.
> >
> > Fabian also posted a video of himself copying 50wpm QTCs typing only with
> > his left thumb. <https://fkurz.net/stuff/thumb-qtc.html> Way beyond my
> pay
> > grade.
> >
> > 73, Jim KK0U
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:09:32 -0400
> From: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> To: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
> Cc: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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> Interesting approach, Hans. Never considered spotters when choosing freq.
> If you ever want to compare notes on hearing issues can always write me
> privately, any time.
>
> Best of luck.
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 3:33 PM Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Barry, I also have severe hearing loss, so my operations are heavy on CW,
> > RTTY, digital.
> >
> > Because the granularity of the clusters and RBN seems to be 100Hz (?), I
> > never run on ?double nuts? frequencies (ending in ????). I generally
> tend
> > to run on QRGs ending in ?.#3?? or thereabouts. The good operators will
> > tune to me and stand out in my rx away from the clumped up ?click the
> spot
> > and transmit? automatons.
> >
> > 73, de Hans, K?HB
> > ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
> >
> > 73, de Hans, K?HB
> > ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com>
> > on behalf of Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:50:50 AM
> > *To:* CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > *Subject:* [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> >
> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> However,
> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> fellow
> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so
> he
> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> SSB
> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> > about.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Barry WA2VIU
> >
> > --
> > Barry Jacobson
> > WA2VIU
> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > @bdj_phd
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 14:18:56 -0600
> From: Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
> To: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>
> Cc: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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>
> This "you're on a fractional frequency" thing seems to be a characteristic
> of new hams. They have their tuning rate set to 1 kHz and don't understand
> how to change it to 10 or 100 Hz.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 1:07?PM Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Ideally yes - in reality, not even close to being possible.
> >
> > 73 Rich NN3W
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 11:29?AM Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> > However,
> > > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to
> try
> > > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In
> CW, I
> > > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> > > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> > fellow
> > > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was
> so
> > he
> > > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> > SSB
> > > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get
> crowded
> > > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me
> if
> > > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never
> knew
> > > about.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Barry WA2VIU
> > >
> > > --
> > > Barry Jacobson
> > > WA2VIU
> > > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> > > @bdj_phd
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:23:39 -0400
> From: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> To: Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
> Cc: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>, Barry Jacobson
> <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector <
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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>
> I think he said in Canada they will use 500 Hz increments. But the FTDX101
> can go down to 5 Hz on SSB, if you like. Makes tuning slower, though.
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 4:19 PM Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This "you're on a fractional frequency" thing seems to be a
> characteristic
> > of new hams. They have their tuning rate set to 1 kHz and don't
> understand
> > how to change it to 10 or 100 Hz.
> >
> > 73,
> > Steve, N2IC
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 1:07?PM Richard F DiDonna NN3W <
> richnn3w@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ideally yes - in reality, not even close to being possible.
> >>
> >> 73 Rich NN3W
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 11:29?AM Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> >> However,
> >> > some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to
> >> try
> >> > SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In
> CW,
> >> I
> >> > never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> >> > called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the
> >> fellow
> >> > said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was
> >> so he
> >> > could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in
> >> SSB
> >> > and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get
> >> crowded
> >> > and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me
> if
> >> > that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never
> >> knew
> >> > about.
> >> >
> >> > 73,
> >> >
> >> > Barry WA2VIU
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Barry Jacobson
> >> > WA2VIU
> >> > bdj@alum.mit.edu
> >> > @bdj_phd
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:29:15 -0400
> From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <c8786859-a437-25c5-5ca0-67eff5882ee4@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I think a distinction needs to be made for CW - if (as usually happens),
> a large part of the pileup is the result of just clicking on a spot,?
> because of the100 Hz resolution of the packet network, then? I submit
> that what you really want to do, if you're an Assisted op, is is to move
> a little off the clicked frequency - I generally move toward the DX,
> approaching zero-beat and it seems to work well.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> On 8/16/2023 3:14 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> > It would not matter what you told him.? While some people use GPS and
> > other forms to absolutely be as perfect as they can with their
> > frequency read outs, most don't.? On SSB you tune for what sound the
> > best TO YOU.? I have never cared what the vfo says as long as I am
> > able to make contacts and not interfering too much with other contests
> > etc.? Same on CW where ever it is clear I use it.? With CW you would
> > do well in pileups not to zero beat the station. Being off just a bit
> > makes you sound a bit different or possibly easier to pick out.
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > W0MU
> >
> > On 8/16/2023 10:25 AM, pwhelton@earthlink.net wrote:
> >> Hi Barry.? This probably won't answer your question but I did want to
> >> comment where the guy "wanted to know your exact frequency so he
> >> could tune
> >> it better".? His comment is exactly why I don't like SSB contests.?
> >> To me
> >> everyone sounds like a duck and I have a hard time tuning them in.??
> >> Don't
> >> get me wrong I do participate in SSB contests but they are not my
> >> favorite.
> >>
> >> As an aside on CW I usually shoot for .050 Khz (i.e.: 21.015.50,
> >> 21.031.50,
> >> 21.037.50, etc).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Pat - KZ5J
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: CQ-Contest
> >> <cq-contest-bounces+pwhelton=earthlink.net@contesting.com>
> >> On Behalf Of Barry Jacobson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:51 AM
> >> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> >>
> >> Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW.
> >> However,
> >> some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to
> >> try
> >> SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In
> >> CW, I
> >> never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> >> called
> >> CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the fellow
> >> said I
> >> am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so he
> >> could
> >> tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in SSB
> >> and in
> >> SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> >> and not
> >> always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if that is
> >> standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew about.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Barry WA2VIU
> >>
> >> --
> >> Barry Jacobson
> >> WA2VIU
> >> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> >> @bdj_phd
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 19:10:50 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
> <29dc0232-920d-3a95-c2cf-6023761f0aa5@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 8/16/2023 1:18 PM, Steve London wrote:
> > This "you're on a fractional frequency" thing seems to be a
> characteristic
> > of new hams. They have their tuning rate set to 1 kHz and don't
> understand
> > how to change it to 10 or 100 Hz.
>
> Thanks, Steve. I couldn't imagine what this was about!
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 03:20:55 +0000
> From: Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
> To: Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector
> <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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>
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>
> Hi Barry,
>
> We have found on 10m that rounded frequencies in 5kHz banks are
> problematic to local services in nearby countries.
> we try to avoid say 28.400 28.405 etc
>
> Good luck with your quest
>
> Trent
> VK4TS
> VK4T WW7TT M0HTT
> PO Box 275
> Mooloolaba 4557
> 0408497550
>
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+vk4ts=outlook.com@contesting.com> on
> behalf of Barry Jacobson <bdj@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2023 00:50
> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
>
> Hi, due to poor hearing, I am not on SSB that much, but mainly CW. However,
> some improvements with my hearing device have made me more willing to try
> SSB. I am wondering if people always use integral number of KHz. In CW, I
> never paid attention to exact freq, just found empty freq in band and
> called CQ. But recently was calling CQ for a ragchew in SSB, and the fellow
> said I am on a fractional freq and wanted to know exactly what it was so he
> could tune it better. Said was unusual. Is that always the practice in SSB
> and in SSB contests to use whole numbers? I imagine the bands get crowded
> and not always so easy to find a whole number freq. Please correct me if
> that is standard practice in CW and RTTY, as well, something I never knew
> about.
>
> 73,
>
> Barry WA2VIU
>
> --
> Barry Jacobson
> WA2VIU
> bdj@alum.mit.edu
> @bdj_phd
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 22:37:33 -0600
> From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CTY-3326 Country Files - 17 August 2023
> Message-ID: <mailman.4.1692288001.1529.cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> The Country (CTY) Files were updated on 17 August 2023:
>
> https://www.country-files.com/cty-3326-17-august-2023/
>
> For installation instructions, start at:
>
> https://www.country-files.com/
>
> Hover your mouse over the word Contest in the menu, then select the
> software you are using.
>
> To install the file, follow the link to your software at the top of the
> page.
>
> If you are interested in a bigger CTY.DAT for everyday logging, you can get
> it here:
>
> https://www.country-files.com/big-cty-17-august-2023/
>
> Note that the release notes (and Version Entity) for this larger file are
> different than what is shown below. There is a separate link to them.
>
> As a reminder, there is an RSS feed of the latest country file
> announcements:
>
> https://www.country-files.com/feed/
>
> Here are the release notes:
>
> 17 August 2023 (CTY-3326)
> VER20230817, Version entity is Peru, OA
>
> Added/changed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:
>
> * IT9ACJ/I/BO is Sicily, *IT9
> * 9M66M is West Malaysia, 9M2
> * 9M66MQ and 9M66MS are both East Malaysia, 9M6
> * E51D is North Cook Islands, E5/n in ITU zone 63
> * GB0NHL, GB1CWC, GB1OL, GB2LG and GB2THL are all Scotland, GM
> * GB5DD and GB5VAS are both Guernsey, GU
> * GB1HBL is Wales, GW
> * IO0C is Sardinia, IS
> * W2NQ is United States, K in CQ zone 3, ITU zone 6
> * LU5DNH/F and LU8DCH/D are both Argentina, LU
> * LU3VAL/V is Argentina, LU in ITU zone 16
> * UA4HAZ/P is in ITU zone 30, not ITU zone 29
> * R90WFR and RW9W/P are both European Russia, UA
> * RX9WT/P is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 16
> * R2EC/9, UA0DAR/P and UF8F/0 are all Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ
> zone 18, ITU zone 32
> * RA1WS/0 is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 23
> * R20RMP is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 34
> * ZP6RAI/F, ZP6RAI/H, ZP6RAI/L and ZP6RAI/V are all Paraguay, ZP
>
> Removed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:
>
> * GR6ICR in Isle of Man, GD
> * 2R0WMN, GR3SG, MR0ILE, MR0NOR, MR0TLG and MR7DXL in Northern
> Ireland, GI
> * 2R0JVR, 2R0XZA, GB2DRC, GB2KDR, GB2OWM, GB2TMH, GR0AZC, GR0OPS,
> GR3WUX,
> GR3ZZA, GR5AUG, GR5DX, GR6ZAK, GR8VL, MR0DHQ, MR0GOR, MR0HVU,
> MR0JNL, MR0KFR,
> MR0T, MR3DDQ, MR3JFM, MR3SVK and MR7RVP in Scotland, GM
> * MR0FAL in Guernsey, GU
> * 2R0FLW, 2R0HQA, 2R0JYN, 2R0YLW, 2R1BRY, GB0ATM, GB0TBL, GB1HMM,
> GB4KCC,
> GR0ANA, GR4BML, GR4CVT, GR4NOO, GR6YML, MR0DX, MR0ION, MR0PJE,
> MR6IUT,
> MR6JUY, MR7KJC and MR7OFS in Wales, GW
> * K7DR and WB5KFP in United States, K
> * K6T, KG5HMM and KH8RRC in Hawaii, KH6
> * KI6WBS in Alaska, KL
> * LU8DCH/E in Argentina, LU
> * TA1TW/6 in Asiatic Turkey, TA
> * R150RSW, R150UR, R320P, R9CS/6 and UG4I/P in European Russia, UA
> * RV3DSA/0 in Asiatic Russia, UA9
> * ZQ2YN in Gibraltar, ZB
>
> Though I am subscribed to this reflector so that I can make these
> announcements, I do not see most messages posted to it. If you have
> any comments or corrections to the country file, please contact me
> directly.
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>, https://ad1c.us
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 10:23:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "jpescatore@aol.com" <jpescatore@aol.com>
> To: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID: <1960432015.755267.1692267821298@mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> Definitely a silly thing for contest QSOs, but:
> Years ago I had a ragchew SSB contact where the guy wanted to know what my
> dial freq was because he always liked to hear what someone really sounded
> like. I explained to him that with the limited bandwidth we use on SSB in
> our microphones and radios, no one sounds like they do in real life anyway.
> If he wanted something closer to what ops sounded like IRL, he could go to
> 3885 and join the HiFi AMers.
> The first time you talk to one of your kids on the telephone, they don't
> even recognize you - the identifying features of you don't get through that
> limited bandwidth. The phonemes for intelligibility do, but not the facets
> for speaker identification.
> Though, there are some speech patterns that are so unique, they stand out:
> Fred K3ZO calling CQ in a contest was identifiable even if you listed
> through a CW filter...
> 73 John K3TN
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 07:51:12 -0500
> From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
> To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
> Message-ID:
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> There are some hams who use DRM (Digital Radio Mondiale). Not only is the
> tuning not very critical, but it sounds like the person is right there in
> your room with you.
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 7:38?AM jpescatore--- via CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> > Definitely a silly thing for contest QSOs, but:
> > Years ago I had a ragchew SSB contact where the guy wanted to know what
> my
> > dial freq was because he always liked to hear what someone really sounded
> > like. I explained to him that with the limited bandwidth we use on SSB in
> > our microphones and radios, no one sounds like they do in real life
> anyway.
> > If he wanted something closer to what ops sounded like IRL, he could go
> to
> > 3885 and join the HiFi AMers.
> > The first time you talk to one of your kids on the telephone, they don't
> > even recognize you - the identifying features of you don't get through
> that
> > limited bandwidth. The phonemes for intelligibility do, but not the
> facets
> > for speaker identification.
> > Though, there are some speech patterns that are so unique, they stand
> out:
> > Fred K3ZO calling CQ in a contest was identifiable even if you listed
> > through a CW filter...
> > 73 John K3TN
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>
>
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>
> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:36:15 +0000
> From: "Joseph B. Fitzgerald" <jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu>
> To: Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>, Barry Jacobson
> <bdj@alum.mit.edu>, CQ-Contest Reflector <
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest SSB Frequencies
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>
> During an SSB contest there is absolutely no reason to be on an "exact"
> frequency. There isn't really one for rag chewing either, but a lot of
> people do it, perhaps out of habit due to checking into nets, where it
> makes more sense to be on an exact frequency.
>
> I used to drive my roommate in college crazy as I set my alarm clock to
> "about" 8 am. Might be 7:57 one day, 8:02 the next. For some reason
> that really bugged him.
>
> de KM1P Joe
>
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