Transparency ? You realize that the RBN gives Live to the second data on
Exactly what band your competition is on, where he's being heard Etc. Etc..
It's all useless information and Nobody will even Win or Lose a contest
because of the data. It will not make you a better op, have better antennas
or anything else.
To imply the data could help would mean you are going to do Just enough to
win or lose based on what your competition is doing ?
Thankfully there are many hundreds of the Top Ops participating on the
scoreboard and most all of the Winners are on there. It's a Great time to
be alive !
Ron, WV4P
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> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:48:00 +0000
> From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
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> On weekends lately I?ve been watching the Vikings and the Gophers play
> football. The coaches don?t seem to value transparency very much. In
> fact, they often pull some really sneaky and confusing moves as if they
> want to confound their competitors.
>
> I?ve also observed that those competitors whose moves are transparent,
> mostly lose their games.
>
>
>
> 73, de Hans, K?HB
> ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on
> behalf of NT6X - Mike via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 9:39:17 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Online scoreboard
>
> Transparency in contesting has come a long way in the last 10 yrs, which
> is a good thing. However, it's still a "competition" isn't it? We can
> exchange logs and stories after the contest, but I'm not about to give my
> competition any information (Score, QSO's, mults, what band I'm on, or if
> I'm taking off time) that would motivate them to keep BIC. Fighting your
> inner demons is part of the game. Perhaps the Scoreboards should limit
> viewing to only those participating.
>
> Personally I get motivation from not knowing and wondering how my
> competition is doing. THAT keeps the adrenaline level through the roof and
> keeps me pushing the whole contest. If the sponsors ever made the
> Scoreboard mandatory, I would probably submit checklogs and just compete
> for myself.
>
> Mike, NT6X
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:57:20 -0800
> From: JP K <jp@ezoom.net>
> To: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online scoreboard
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> And then there are those observed so far this weekend, losing in one
> category so they change their category and now they?re winning by a healthy
> margin. Love those ?ethics? from a top tier player.
>
> Some 6-7 hours later, they?re getting slaughtered by the one they thought
> they were going not beat handily. Funny how that works. Wonder if they?ll
> go category shopping again before turning in a log.
>
> W2XX/7
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 2024, at 5:48?AM, Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On weekends lately I?ve been watching the Vikings and the Gophers play
> football. The coaches don?t seem to value transparency very much. In
> fact, they often pull some really sneaky and confusing moves as if they
> want to confound their competitors.
> >
> > I?ve also observed that those competitors whose moves are transparent,
> mostly lose their games.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, de Hans, K?HB
> > ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
> > ________________________________
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com>
> on behalf of NT6X - Mike via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 9:39:17 AM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Online scoreboard
> >
> > Transparency in contesting has come a long way in the last 10 yrs, which
> is a good thing. However, it's still a "competition" isn't it? We can
> exchange logs and stories after the contest, but I'm not about to give my
> competition any information (Score, QSO's, mults, what band I'm on, or if
> I'm taking off time) that would motivate them to keep BIC. Fighting your
> inner demons is part of the game. Perhaps the Scoreboards should limit
> viewing to only those participating.
> >
> > Personally I get motivation from not knowing and wondering how my
> competition is doing. THAT keeps the adrenaline level through the roof and
> keeps me pushing the whole contest. If the sponsors ever made the
> Scoreboard mandatory, I would probably submit checklogs and just compete
> for myself.
> >
> > Mike, NT6X
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 17:18:03 -0600
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
> To: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
> Cc: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online scoreboard
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> Now Hans, looking at the standings, perhaps both teams would be better off
> with more transparency. <grin>
>
> My favorite NFL team? The Baltimore Colts. They haven?t lost a game in
> around 40 years?
>
> One of the things I note on the scoreboards is that most ops don't seem to
> care about others seeing their band splits. N1MM+ allows you to turn off
> that feature. But almost all users leave it on.
> I use SkookumLogger which doesn?t give you a choice - K1GQ made the right
> decision is leaving out the band info.
>
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 2024, at 7:48?AM, Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On weekends lately I?ve been watching the Vikings and the Gophers play
> football. The coaches don?t seem to value transparency very much. In
> fact, they often pull some really sneaky and confusing moves as if they
> want to confound their competitors.
> >
> > I?ve also observed that those competitors whose moves are transparent,
> mostly lose their games.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, de Hans, K?HB
> > ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
> > ________________________________
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com>
> on behalf of NT6X - Mike via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 9:39:17 AM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Online scoreboard
> >
> > Transparency in contesting has come a long way in the last 10 yrs, which
> is a good thing. However, it's still a "competition" isn't it? We can
> exchange logs and stories after the contest, but I'm not about to give my
> competition any information (Score, QSO's, mults, what band I'm on, or if
> I'm taking off time) that would motivate them to keep BIC. Fighting your
> inner demons is part of the game. Perhaps the Scoreboards should limit
> viewing to only those participating.
> >
> > Personally I get motivation from not knowing and wondering how my
> competition is doing. THAT keeps the adrenaline level through the roof and
> keeps me pushing the whole contest. If the sponsors ever made the
> Scoreboard mandatory, I would probably submit checklogs and just compete
> for myself.
> >
> > Mike, NT6X
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 11:33:55 +1100
> From: <bdm556@bigpond.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: "'OCDX Committee'" <ocdx-committee@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2024 Oceania DX Contest raw scores
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> Hi everyone
>
>
>
> Thanks again to everyone who joined the 2024 Oceania DX Contest. The raw
> scores were published last week - check them out at
> https://www.oceaniadxcontest.com/. The committee's now working on the log
> checking for the final results and will get them published ASAP.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Brian Miller VK3MI ZL1AZE
>
> For OCDX Contest Committee
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