Jeff,
I think it's a superb idea, especially for NAQP. Many, many contesters
have just such a setup.
vy 73,
Chris, NX4N
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> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:33:39 -0500
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Contest and Adding a Limited Antenna Category?
> I was just wondering if the sponsors of the NAQP would consider adding a
> Limited Antenna category like both the ARRL and CQ contests have? The
> top scores in both SO-Unassisted and SO-Assisted categories are always
> the same people who have large stations with big antennas. Many have
> touted the NAQP's as having a level the playing field because everyone
> (except the QRP guys) are running 100 watts. That's not really the case
> because you really have to look at ERP not output power. Someone running
> 100 watts and yagis isn't equal to someone running 100 watts and a dipole.
>
> I bet there would be a lot of entries in a limited antenna category.
> Many more than the QRP category which NAQP has. The looked at the last
> NAQP CW published results. That was August 2024. There were 850 entries
> in that contest. I counted only 55 QRP entries. That comes out to only
> 6% on the submitted scores. I didn't check the SSB results but I bet it
> was even lower since the QRP guys tend to prefer CW. Personally, being
> stuck with limited antennas I would like my score compared to someone
> who has a station similar to mine.
>
> Maybe make the rules similar to the ARRL overlay :
>
> Limited Antennas Overlay – Operation is limited to the use of
> single-element antennas such as a single vertical, end-fed wire, or a
> single dipole antenna no more than 50 feet above ground at its highest
> point. The antenna(s) may cover multiple bands, as in the case of
> multiband verticals and dipoles with fan or trap constructions.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this ?
>
>
> Jeff
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Weisz László" <ha3nu@tolna.net>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:13:03 +0100
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] HA-DX contest - This Weekend
> Hello contesters,
>
> The HA-DX Contest, will be taking place this weekend (January 18/19 12-12
> UTC). You are encouraged to join in the fun and work with lot's of HA
> stations.
> There are some minor changes in the Rules, so do not forget to check it:
> https://ha-dx.com/en/contest-rules
>
> Good luck in the contest!
>
> 73 Lacy HA3NU
> member of HA-DX CC
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: JOHN GEIGER <af5cc1@zohomail.com>
> To: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
> Cc: "CQ-Contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 23:19:59 -0600
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Contest and Adding a Limited Antenna
> Category?
> I agree Jeff that this is a good idea, and I have thought this for a
> while. We have QRP awards and QRP categories in most contests and have for
> some time, but usually do not recognize the challenge which limited
> antennas pose to operating. CQ had the TB-Wires overlay, but that would
> include a TH7 at 100 feet and rotatable dipoles for the low bands, not
> exactly limited.
>
>
>
> It will be interesting to see how many entered the limited antenna
> category in the SS this past year.
>
>
>
> 73 John AF5CC
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> ---- On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:33:39 -0600 Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote
> ---
>
>
>
> I was just wondering if the sponsors of the NAQP would consider adding a
> Limited Antenna category like both the ARRL and CQ contests have? The
> top scores in both SO-Unassisted and SO-Assisted categories are always
> the same people who have large stations with big antennas. Many have
> touted the NAQP's as having a level the playing field because everyone
> (except the QRP guys) are running 100 watts. That's not really the case
> because you really have to look at ERP not output power. Someone running
> 100 watts and yagis isn't equal to someone running 100 watts and a dipole.
>
> I bet there would be a lot of entries in a limited antenna category.
> Many more than the QRP category which NAQP has. The looked at the last
> NAQP CW published results. That was August 2024. There were 850 entries
> in that contest. I counted only 55 QRP entries. That comes out to only
> 6% on the submitted scores. I didn't check the SSB results but I bet it
> was even lower since the QRP guys tend to prefer CW. Personally, being
> stuck with limited antennas I would like my score compared to someone
> who has a station similar to mine.
>
> Maybe make the rules similar to the ARRL overlay :
>
> Limited Antennas Overlay – Operation is limited to the use of
> single-element antennas such as a single vertical, end-fed wire, or a
> single dipole antenna no more than 50 feet above ground at its highest
> point. The antenna(s) may cover multiple bands, as in the case of
> multiband verticals and dipoles with fan or trap constructions.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this ?
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
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> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 01:28:51 -0800
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Contest and Adding a Limited Antenna
> Category?
> On 1/16/2025 10:33 AM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
> > Limited Antennas Overlay – Operation is limited to the use of single-
> > element antennas such as a single vertical, end-fed wire, or a single
> > dipole antenna no more than 50 feet above ground at its highest point.
> > The antenna(s) may cover multiple bands, as in the case of multiband
> > verticals and dipoles with fan or trap constructions.
> >
> > Anyone else have any thoughts on this ?
>
> As the guy on the CAC who wrote the words that someone in HQ re-wrote to
> weaken them, and who lived 80% of my years as a ham on a city with low
> wires, I think it's a great idea. I championed it as soon as I saw the
> suggestion from a group of hams, in the SE, I think. And from 3830
> posts, it's clear that it's been quite popular.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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