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Subject: [ct-user] WPX M/S Rules and Contest Software
From: kwolff@charter.net (Ken Wolff)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:33:59 -0500
I asked N8BJQ about this and got the following reply:

Ken

My original intent as by transmitter but that appears to be quite
difficult to implement.  I will be happy with numbers per band.

Thanks

Steve


> -----Original Message-----
> From: K1EA [mailto:k1ea@contesting.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 4:46 PM
> To: 'N8BJQ'
> Cc: 'Jim Reisert'
> Subject: WPX M/S serial numbers
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Do you want a serial number sequence per band in M/S setups or a 
> serial number sequence per transmitter in WPX?
>
> http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/multnumbers.htm seems to indicate per band,

> but http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/multnumbers.htm says per transmitter?
>
> If the real rule is per transmitter, I think a lot of the programs 
> will have problems.
>
> Thanks - Ken
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: ct-user-admin@contesting.com [mailto:ct-user-admin@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Fabio I4UFH
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:23 PM
To: K2KW@prodigy.net; ct-user@contesting.com
Subject: [ct-user] WPX M/S Rules and Contest Software

Hi Kenny,

I remember well that the rules were adapted to use M/M configurations in
the Contest Programs,but the way that 
you suggest ( using M/M setup and respecting the M/S 10min rules ) is
not compliant to the rules that  follows :

WPX 2002 Rules

2. Multi-Operator (All band operation only)
(a) Single-Transmitter: Only one transmitter and one band permitted
during the same time period (defined as 10
minutes). Exception: One-and only one-other band may be used during any
10-minute period if-and only if-the
station worked is a new multiplier. Use a separate serial numbers for
the multiplier station. Logs found in violation
of the 10-minute rule will be automatically reclassified as multi-multi.
Maximum power allowed is 1500 watts total
output power. Your log MUST show the correct serial number sent for each
contact. (MULTI-ONE)


I understand, but I can be wrong, that the multiplier station MUST use a
separate serial numbers, completly separate
from running serial numbers. Each group of serial numbers are not
separate by band, Runner Numbers start from 0000
on Running band AND on the same 10 min period a Mult station can work
needed mult's on another band starting again
from 0000.

Some Example of what I had understood :

Time    RunnerBand    RunnerSerial    MultBand    MultSerial

0000    20                    0001                40            0001
New Mult
0001    20                    0002                40            0002
"     
0002    20                    0003                40            0003
"
0003    20                    0004                40            0004
"
0004    20                    0005                40            0005
"
0005    20                    0006                40            0006
"   
0006    20                    0007                40            0007
"
0007    20                    0008                40            0008
"
0008    20                    0009                40            0009
"
0009    20                    0010                40            0010
"
0010    20                    0011                40            0011
"
0011    20                    0012                15            0012
"
0012    40                    0013                15            0013
"
0013    40                    0014                15            0014
"
0014    40                    0015                15            0015
"

The M/M configuration in CT don't solve the problem, because in this way
you have 6 different Serial Numbers sequence by band, but is not what
the rules claims. The big difference is that CT count the QSO by band,
the rules need to count the QSO by Computer were QSO is logged. Writelog
has similar kind of Serial manging, but has another bad features, has
slow Master.DTA search, mouse dipendent menu and so on that we don't
agree.

I cannot see another view to read the rules, but probable on the mind of
the writer there was a good idea, but on the paper it's dont seem the
same that thinked .... or am I in wrong ?? Light me !!

73 and thank's de Fabio I4UFH



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <K2KW@prodigy.net>
To: <ct-user@contesting.com>; <ct-user@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 7:34 PM
Subject: [ct-user] Re: ct-user digest, Vol 1 #162 - 1 msg


> >Next week I will leave to D4 for the CQWPX Contest 
> and still no news about
> >CT version with new M/S rules.
> 
> I had long discussions with N8BJQ about M/S serial 
> numbers last year, and there have been other people 
> talking to Steve this year about the same topic. As 
> long as you have separate serial numbers by band, and 
> you copy them correctly, you will be OK.  
> 
> In other words, if CT is not compliant with the new 
> rules, set CT for M/M, but obide by M/S rules 
> (regarding 10 minute rule).  Setting CT for M/M will 
> send a separate serial number string for each band.  
> When you submit your cabrillo log, just change the 
> category to M/S (on the Cabrillo output only! do not 
> change the .BIN file log to M/S, as it will likely 
> renumber all your QSOs).  
> 
> If I were entering M/S this year, I would use M/M as 
> described above.
> 
> Kenny K2KW
> 
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