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[ct-user] CT9.84 CRTL F1/F2, MODE SELECT problem for VHF SS TST

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Subject: [ct-user] CT9.84 CRTL F1/F2, MODE SELECT problem for VHF SS TST
From: alsopb at gloryroad.net (alsopb)
Date: Fri Jan 24 15:11:31 2003
I'm reading this thread and I'm perplexed.

1) How many people actually are using CT for VHF contests?  I keep
hearing that there is a real problem with activity?  What are the
rates obtained?

2) If you do use CT, do you use rig control?  If so how in the world
is CT going to know the difference in mode other than CW, SSB, digital
or FM?  Modes like WSJT, PSK, perhaps RTTY and moonbounce are done
using the rig in other modes.   That means you have to somehow enter
the info manually and somehow override what CT would determine.  If
you don't use rig control, are you really manually entering all the
bands/frequencies?  Perhaps you use 15 different radios for the VHF
bands and have to do this.  I don't know.   

3) In the normal run of the mill VHF contest, just how many
digital/moonbounce/WSJT QSO's do you guys make?  What is the rate?
Once per minute, once very ten minutes, once per hour or once per
day?  My guess is that they are few and far apart.

It sounds like you're asking Ken to automate something rare that could
easily be noted on a post-it note with pen and pencil and manually
entered into your more detailed logging program later.  Even HF
contesters keep a sheet of "exceptions" for later use.

I know there are some pretty sophisticated VHF contest only programs
out there.  Do any of them do what you want?

Just curious.

73 de Brian/K3KO

R Johnson wrote:
> 
> Yes, I agree.  I like to keep track of the mode for many reasons,
> especially when I transfer the CT results into my main logging program.
> 
> I wish we could talk Ken into adding a "D column" for Digital QSO's
> with the wide spread use of modes like WSJT, PSK31, etc. (Maybe "E"
> for EME contacts. What say, Frank NC1I)
> 
> Maybe all of the VHF users should ask him to do so.  After all Ken
> just added all of the bands between 10G and LIGHT to CT.
> 
> 73
> Bob, K1VU
> FN42ma
> 
> At 06:48 1/23/2003 , you wrote:
> >At 05:16 AM 1/23/03 -0600, Bob Naumann - N5NJ wrote:
> > >>From the rules:  " Stations may be worked for credit only once per band 
> > >>from
> > >any given grid square, regardless of mode. "
> > >
> > >According to this, there's no reason to have mode at all in ARRL VHF
> > >contests as part of the log - nevermind whether it's FM or SSB.
> > >
> > >I don't have any problem with logging FM, CW or SSB.  The point is that 
> > >it's
> > >not required.
> >
> >It is not required by the rules but to be accurate I would like to know what 
> >type of Q it is.  My reasons include, knowing what the distribution of FM 
> >vs. SSB vs. CW Q's in the contest.  I think someone also pointed this out.  
> >It's nice to know that the extra effort to put up that FM antenna yields you 
> >some points.  Or to make sure you check some of the lower frequencies for 
> >CW.  Or to know that you could only complete the Q on CW as the path margin 
> >didn't allow SSB.  Another reason is for accurate log keeping and QSL'ing.  
> >I would like to know the mode so that when I send a card, it can reflect the 
> >proper mode.  The FCC doesn't require you to log anymore, but I still log 
> >just about everything, especially transferring my contest logs to my station 
> >log.  That requires emission type.
> >
> >
> >
> > >N5NJ
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "R Johnson" <k1vu@tmlp.com>
> > >To: <don@hfradio.com>; "Jim Reisert AD1C" <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>;
> > ><CT-User@contesting.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:29 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [ct-user] CT9.84 CRTL F1/F2, MODE SELECT problem for VHF SS 
> > >TST
> > >
> > >
> > >> Yes, Don your right after a fashion !!!  They are both Phone vs. CW !!!
> > >>
> > >> The ARRL VHF Contests broke the "Phone" category down into SSB and FM
> > >Simplex
> > >> in order to attract the some of the new "No-Code" licensees into VHF
> > >CONTESTING.
> > >>
> > >> If you bring up anyone of the vhf contests you will see that the summary
> > >window
> > >> shows CW SSB FM as viable categories.
> > >>
> > >> Check it out.
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >> Bob, K1VU
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> into  At 19:14 1/22/2003 , Don Melcher wrote:
> > >> >Maybe I am missing something here - but isn't, for the purpose of a
> > >contest,
> > >> >FM & SSB considered the same "mode" - Phone (and digital RTTY)? What 
> > >> >mode
> > >> >does CT THINK you're in when you select FM on the radio???
> > >> >
> > >> >Don Melcher
> > >> >Owner - HF Radio On Board
> > >> >www.hfradio.com
> > >> >
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >From: ct-user-bounces@contesting.com
> > >> >[mailto:ct-user-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of R Johnson
> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:37 PM
> > >> >To: Jim Reisert AD1C; CT-User@contesting.com
> > >> >Subject: Re: [ct-user] CT9.84 CRTL F1/F2, MODE SELECT problem for VHF SS
> > >> >TST
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Hi Jim: I tried CT 9.85.001. CRTL F1/F2 still broken. No FM.
> > >> >
> > >> >73 Bob, K1VU
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >>
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