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Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
From: jna@tcpbbs.net
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:05:48 -0500
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I as well get the exact IP freeze issue on our kn and ap bases. However I am
getting something else that is really knocking me out. We are getting good
signals from an example link (-45dbm Signal/-83 dbm Noise) link is rock
solid. Then various times during the day and night the link will not
increase in noise floor but the retrans will go almost 75% with packet loss
so large the link becomes unresponsive. The signal levels will jump around
to meet the noise floor and not the opposite. This dumps the links as well.
It is not hardware at the sites this happens at as we have totally swapped
things out. Anyone else seeing this?

John

> again this isn't a real fix, ideally the ISP base should see the problem
> and stop the retrans loop, I'd rather drop the one CPE then drop DROP
> ALL CPE"s...
> it just happened again as I"m writing this email,....
>
>
> Joe Correia wrote:
>
> > Change your channel & network ID.
> > We find that on some channels our isp base's will go 4-10 days before
> > we see it do the retransmit loop, while others channels we'll be luck
> > to get a few hours.
> > The best fix is to upgrade the problem user with higher gain ant... or
> > a higher powered card if the noise is high or jumping around.
> > We're running the beta v4.46 and still seeing this. ;^(
> >
> >
> > --Joe
> >
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> >>   1. Re: IP Freeze (gbricaire@bricaire.com)
> >>   2. Re: IP Freeze (Dan Metcalf)
> >>   3. RE: IP Freeze (Scott Williams)
> >>   4. Re: IP Freeze (Dan Metcalf)
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:42:28 -0500
> >> From: gbricaire@bricaire.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
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> >> Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
> >> still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.
> >>
> >> Any advice, anybody??
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
> >>> seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
> >>> the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
> >>> networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
> >>> traffic for the other CPE's on that AP
> >>>
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> >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:50:28 -0400
> >> From: Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
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> >> I've been dealing with this for almost 2 years
> >>
> >> gbricaire@bricaire.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
> >>> still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.
> >>>
> >>> Any advice, anybody??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
> >>>> seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
> >>>> the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
> >>>> networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
> >>>> traffic for the other CPE's on that AP
> >>>>
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:09:53 -0700
> >> From: "Scott Williams" <swilliams@skyriver.net>
> >> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
> >> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
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> >> When the base freezes up look in turbocell station entries to see
> >> which radio is in a re-transmit loop.  Then log into that
> >> radio and change the transmit rate.  I find that 5.5Mbps works
> >> well, but you may need to go to 2Mbps.  When I've done this it
> >> reduces the number of freezes quite a bit.  I've tried the latest
> >> firmware but I've still seen the freeze issue.  I hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Scott Williams
> >> NOC Engineer
> >> Skyriver Communications, Inc.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gbricaire@bricaire.com [mailto:gbricaire@bricaire.com] Sent:
> >> Friday, October 15, 2004 1:42 PM
> >> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
> >>
> >> Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
> >> still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.
> >>
> >> Any advice, anybody??
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
> >>> seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
> >>> the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
> >>> networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
> >>> traffic for the other CPE's on that AP
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:07:53 -0400
> >> From: Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
> >> To: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
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> >> yes I've done this and it did work but now some of these are at 1Mbps
> >> and we still see it and some of these are at -68dbm signal
> >> Scott Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> When the base freezes up look in turbocell station entries to see
> >>> which radio is in a re-transmit loop.  Then log into that
> >>> radio and change the transmit rate.  I find that 5.5Mbps works
> >>> well, but you may need to go to 2Mbps.  When I've done this it
> >>> reduces the number of freezes quite a bit.  I've tried the latest
> >>> firmware but I've still seen the freeze issue.  I hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> Scott Williams
> >>> NOC Engineer
> >>> Skyriver Communications, Inc.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: gbricaire@bricaire.com [mailto:gbricaire@bricaire.com] Sent:
> >>> Friday, October 15, 2004 1:42 PM
> >>> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
> >>>
> >>> Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
> >>> still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.
> >>>
> >>> Any advice, anybody??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
> >>>> seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
> >>>> the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
> >>>> networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
> >>>> traffic for the other CPE's on that AP
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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