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Subject: [na-user] Missing QSO's in Cabrillo file
From: k8cc <k8cc@mediaone.net> (k8cc)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:27:01 -0400
At 02:23 PM 5/13/00 +0000, Ron Wetjen wrote:

>Have been working on the FQP logs ... putting paper logs into NA, and
>sending the .log and .sum files via e-mail to our log checker.
>
>Upon receiving the logs, he's discovered some logs end up missing
>QSO's.  In trying to figure out what's going on, I've noticed (depending
>on which word processing program I'm using) the .log and .sum files
>contain what look like square box characters, which seem to be used as
>spaces.
>
>When I edit these "boxes" out, the log data seems to go through intact
>... and when I leave the "boxes" in the log, QSO's seem to be getting
>dropped.
>
>Again, depending what I'm using to view the logs with, I'm either
>getting something like this:
>
>START-OF-LOG: 2.0
>CONTEST: FL-QSO-PARTY
>CALLSIGN: WB4NJV
>OPERATORS: K8DSS, WD4AHZ
>CATEGORY: ALL LOW MIXED
>CLAIMED-SCORE: 2992
>CLUB: Sarasota Emergency Radio Club
>SOAPBOX:
>SOAPBOX:
>NAME: Ron Wetjen
>ADDRESS: 5362 Castleman Drive
>ADDRESS: Sarasota, FL 34232
>
>
>or like this
>
>START-OF-LOG: 2.0
>CONTEST: FL-QSO-PARTY
>CALLSIGN: WB4NJV
>OPERATORS: K8DSS, WD4AHZ
>CATEGORY: ALL LOW MIXED
>CLAIMED-SCORE: 2992
>CLUB: Sarasota Emergency Radio Club
>SOAPBOX: SOAPBOX: NAME: Ron Wetjen
>ADDRESS: 5362 Castleman Drive
>ADDRESS: Sarasota, FL 34232
>
>(There are many of those "box" characters in the "soapbox" area, which
>either show up, or have no affect, as in the example above.)
>
>It seems some programs may handle these characters one way, while other
>programs handle them differently.
>
>My main concern is, are there legitimate QSO's being lost from other
>contest logs, because of this.  The number of QSO's ending up missing,
>can range from 2 or 3 to over half the log (granted, the log was only 23
>QSO's ... but only 8 made it to the log checker!)
>
>Very strange.
>
>Ron

I suspect that the problem may be "nul" characters.  A nul character has an 
ASCII value of zero, as opposed to a space character which has an ASCII 
value of 32 decimal.

To illustrate how these might appear, suppose there is a six digit field 
for the station callsign.  I type in "K8CC", and depending on the program 
the field might be "K 8 C C sp sp" or "K 8 C C nul nul".  Most text editors 
convert nuls to spaces, but many programs (particularly word processors) 
treat nuls as unknown characters, usually represented by a box.

There are other possibilities, but overall the best solution is to NEVER 
USE A WORD PROCESSOR TO EDIT ASCII FILES.  Yeah, I know its more convenient 
when your desktop environment is Windows-based, but its been my experience 
that you can't count on the assumptions a word processor makes with ASCII 
files.  I know I've seen wierdness using MS-Word in this area.  You really 
need to use an ASCII text editor, not a word processor.  Even Windows 
NotePad is better than a word processor.

73,

Dave/K8CC


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