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[RFI] Re: Interference Database - Ether RFI

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Subject: [RFI] Re: Interference Database - Ether RFI
From: Martin Ewing <martin@aa6e.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:02:00 -0400
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Jim,

Did I miss something on the list? What database is this? I am also interested in Ethernet RFI, and I have a small article on it at http://www.aa6e.net/aa6e/rfi/index.html. If you look closely, there are birdies at least every 32 kHz on 100baseT, detectable all the way up into GHz territory. Some are much worse that others, e.g., multiples of 25 MHz.

I agree that ferrites help a lot, maybe 6-8 turns on a type 43 toroid core. Resonance of Ether runs at HF wavelengths can lead to problems that can kill your Ethernet ports. (I've done it with 100 Watts on 80 M.) I try to use shielded twisted pair (STP) instead of UTP. More than that, I'm mostly switching to WiFi networking around the house.

Cheers,

Martin, AA6E

Subject:
[RFI] Intereference Database
From:
"Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date:
Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:35:15 -0500

To:
"RFI List" <rfi@contesting.com>, "dk1max@darc.de" <dk1max@darc.de>


I think this database could be a lot more useful if it listed specific "birdie" or carrier frequencies and cross referenced to specific equipment or equipment types that produce those frequencies.


For example, I've tracked down specific frequencies in several HF CW bands that are produced by the 10BaseT Ethernet gear in my office. They are:

3511, 10106, 14029, 14030, 21052, and 28014. I'm sure there are other frequencies associated with 10BaseT, but I'm a CW guy and this is what I've found. :)

I've also learned that much of this is radiated by the CAT5 cable as a common mode signal, and that it can be significantly attenuated by winding the CAT5 cable around a ferrite core to form a choke.

Jim Brown K9YC






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