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Re: [RFI] NOISE GADGETS

To: Tom Rauch <w8ji@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] NOISE GADGETS
From: David Jordan <wa3gin@erols.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:07:19 -0500
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Yes, Tom I can't disagree with these most recent comments of yours.

I typically use cormcom EMI/RFI AC line filters. But I've used some surplus jobs from Fair Radio with similar success. Decades ago I spent a good amount of time in a lab comparing some of these filters types, even the K-coms.

We had one telephone line problem where the line had so much RF on it that you could pull an arch off the line with a graphite pencil. We placed seven K-COMS in series in an attempt to remove the RFI. But seven wasn't enough...the RFI was there, reduced but still there...one Corcom totally removed the RF. It was amazing!

I'll dig around and see if I can find the type and model info...most of the stuff is now down on the farm.

Here is the info from one of the surplus filters:

LINE
RNF - 5PI
2X5 AMPS
125/ 50VAC
50 400hz
RTRON CORP

I bought a couple dozen of these years ago. They have been solving phone RFI problems for many years.

73,
dave
wa3gin

Tom Rauch wrote:

I've used these filters for decades and they blow away

everything


discussed on this thread to date. And I've tried them all.

So, I'm


speaker from practical experience.


Hi Dave,

If you tried them all, then you have tried more than I have!
I've probably only sampled and measured a few dozen types of
brute force line filters, and none were really suitable for
general telco use. I suppose there are types that work is
some cases, I just haven't run into them. I'm a little
reluctant to believe it's OK to just use any old brute force
line filter in the world, especially when most I've seen
won't work reliably.

It would be helpful if you gave a brand and part number of
something that does work.

A power line operates at 60 Hz, has very low impedance, and
is not critical at all for balance.

A telco line runs at 300-3500 Hz, has reasonably high
impedance (600 ohms), and that is very load impedance and
balance critical.

73 Tom



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