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Re: [RFI] Ethernet RFI

To: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>, <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Ethernet RFI
From: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:33:00 -0600
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:28:10 -0600, Ford Peterson wrote:
> 
>>I'm willing to bet my next paycheck that the noise will be gone 
>>if they are properly shielded by retaining the 'pairs' in the
>>proper sequence. 
> 
> You'd better go for a paycheck loan, Ford. :) You (and the tutorial) 
> are absolutely correct that a twisted pair helps TREMENDOUSLY in 
> killing DIFFERENTIAL mode coupling to/from the cable. And we have a 
> lot of experience with loudspeaker cables that says that twisted 
> pair is FAR superior to parallel wire (zip cord) in minimizing RFI. 
> 
> But twisting helps NOT AT ALL when the cable is excited COMMON MODE 
> and radiates as a long wire antenna. That's what the chokes can 
> reduce (a LOT). 
> 
> My experience with HF trash from Ethernet cable is that it is all 
> COMMON MODE radiation from the cable, added (sometimes) to direct 
> radiation from the box itself. 
> 
> Jim Brown  K9YC

Jim,

My bet was a safe one.  I haven't had a paycheck since 1988.  I seriously doubt 
I will have one any time soon.  But if I do, I'll look you up on QRZ and settle 
up...

Many stations use Ethernet to connect stations in a multi-op, and even connect 
it directly to their radios without interference.  It is possible that the 
router itself is at fault.  My experience has been that the power supplies 
supporting the routers are more troublesome than the data exchange.  My comment 
was speculative, but practical.  If the connectors are correct, then look 
elsewhere.  

Have a great day...  And good luck with isolating your noise problems.

Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com





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