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Re: [RFI] When you absolutely positively have to generate 1.5k of QRM

To: "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] When you absolutely positively have to generate 1.5k of QRM
From: Dale Johnson <dj2001x@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 17:40:28 -0500
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Someone said to me once, laws are ment to be broken.  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 25, May 2018, at 17:26, Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net> wrote:

Hi Dale,

Both enforcement, and "lawyer stuff" must be in place, and both are equally 
important.  You can no longer enforce anything without a rule, or a law in 
place...

While I completely agree with you regarding the amount of RFI generating 
equipment in place, and the lack of border controls to keep it out, We must 
have the "lawyer stuff" in place to enforce this...

Forget the CB amps, from our stand point as Amateur Operators, they are a 
"nothing burger", they don't affect us in any way, go after the RFI generating 
equipment at the border and try and keep it out there.  When someone is caught, 
fine the operator, fine the owner, and fine the importer, all as much as 
possible, that will get things under control, and in short order.

But we MUST have laws in place to make it not legal to generate, import, make 
available, or use, eequipment that generates harmful RFI-- and as you said, 
those rules must be enforced as well.

I have an RFI event in process now, and will be handing it off the ARRL Lab to 
vet, and then hopefully, forward to the FCC for enforcement. This will take 
place in about two weeks.

We will see if the enforcement is effective in this case, and I will let you 
know...

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 05/25/2018 01:38 PM, Dale Johnson wrote:
> Blah blah, more lawyer stuff.  All these notes don’t make a hill of beans 
> without any sort of enforcment.  First priority for the enforcement is the 
> junk electronics that is in our midst.  Then go after the CB amps.
> Dale, K9VUJ
> On 24, May 2018, at 18:18, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
> You left out 97.315:
> §97.315   Certification of external RF power amplifiers.
> (a) Any external RF power amplifier (see §2.815 of the FCC Rules) 
> manufactured or imported for use at an amateur radio station must be 
> certificated for use in the amateur service in accordance with subpart J of 
> part 2 of the FCC Rules. No amplifier capable of operation below 144 MHz may 
> be constructed or modified by a non-amateur service licensee without a grant 
> of certification from the FCC.
> (b) The requirement of paragraph (a) does not apply if one or more of the 
> following conditions are met:
> (1) The amplifier is constructed or modified by an amateur radio operator for 
> use at an amateur station.
> (2) The amplifier was manufactured before April 28, 1978, and has been issued 
> a marketing waiver by the FCC, or the amplifier was purchased before April 
> 28, 1978, by an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station.
> (3) The amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator or to a dealer, the 
> amplifier is purchased in used condition by a dealer, or the amplifier is 
> sold to an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station.
> (c) Any external RF power amplifier appearing in the Commission's database as 
> certificated for use in the amateur service may be marketed for use in the 
> amateur service.
> On 05/24/2018 03:38 PM, Cortland Richmond wrote:
>> Ohhhh-Kay now:
>> From FCC Part 2:
>> § 2.815
>>         External radio frequency power amplifiers.
>>         (a) As used in this part, an external radio frequency power 
>> amplifier is any device which, (1) when used in conjunction with a radio 
>> transmitter as a signal source is capable of amplification of that signal, 
>> and (2) is not an integral part of a radio transmitter as manufactured.
>>         (b) No person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or 
>> lease (including advertising for sale or lease) or import, ship or 
>> distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or 
>> lease, any external radio frequency power amplifier capable of operation on 
>> any frequency or frequencies below 144 MHz unless the amplifier has received 
>> a grant of certification in accordance with subpart J of this part and other 
>> relevant parts of this chapter. These amplifiers shall comply with the 
>> following:
>>         (1) The external radio frequency power amplifier shall not be 
>> capable of amplification in the frequency band 26-28 MHz.
>>         (2) The amplifier shall not be capable of easy modification to 
>> permit its use as an amplifier in the frequency band 26-28 MHz.
>>         (3) No more than 10 external radio frequency power amplifiers may be 
>> constructed for evaluation purposes in preparation for the submission of an 
>> application for a grant of certification.
>>         (4) If the external radio frequency power amplifier is intended for 
>> operation in the Amateur Radio Service under part 97 of this chapter, the 
>> requirements of §§ 97.315 and 97.317 of this chapter shall be met.
>> Cortland
>> KA5S
>> On 5/24/18 3:01 PM, qrv@kd4e.com wrote:
>>> Does the FCC have to look the other way because it's a kit without a
>>> power supply?
>>> 
>>> Or do they just not care?
>>> 
>>> https://www.rflinear-amplifiers.com/product-page/1500-watt-pep-ldmos-rf-amplifier
>>> 
>>> Isn't this a public confession of guilt?
>>> 
>>> At least intent to operate illegally ...
>>> 
>>> What's the point of laws that aren't enforced?
>>> 
>>> Sigh ...
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