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Re: [RFI] Anyone correlated feedline common mode current levels with RFI

To: Alan Higbie <alan.higbie@gmail.com>, Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Anyone correlated feedline common mode current levels with RFI / noise received?
From: JW via RFI <rfi@contesting.com>
Reply-to: JW <jwin95@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 20:45:25 +0000 (UTC)
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I didn't see my favorite.

The 1:1 Flux coupled transformer.

I use these as "ground-breakers" in the shack on the end of a long coax cable 
to a low-gain rx-only antenna.

This style was particularly effective a few years back on the 630m band.

de Jim WB5WPA



      From: Alan Higbie <alan.higbie@gmail.com>
 To: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com> 
 Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 2:11 PM
 Subject: [RFI] Anyone correlated feedline common mode current levels with RFI 
/ noise received?
   
I know that we can minimize RFI / noise pickup by minimizing the common
mode currents on our feed lines. And, that we want the choke to reduce
common mode current to near zero.

I have seen ***different types*** of common mode current chokes:
-- ferrite bead balun (e.g. W2DU, W0IYH)
-- wound-coax ferrite chokes (e.g. K9YC)
-- broadband 1:1 current baluns (Balun Designs)
-- binocular core coax common-mode chokes (e.g. W1HIS)

There are also suggestions of ***where*** along the feed line baluns should
placed:
-- at the antenna feedpoint
-- at the amplifier output
-- an "at least one other in-between." (W1HIS)

There are RF current probes used for measuring common mode currents.

QUESTIONS:


+++ How do we, as a practical matter,  measure common mode currents to
confirm that what we are doing is effective?


+++ Is there more than one method for measuring common mode currents, i.e.
on the actual antennas we use?


+++ Has anyone measured feed line common mode current before and after
inserting balun? what results?


+++ for placing common-mode baluns "in-between" antenna feed point and
amplifier output - - is there an empirical method for determining where
this should be?  (assume a mono band antenna)


+++ And, most importantly, has anyone correlated common mode current levels
with the noise floor levels, etc.? (e.g. A-B testing)


73, Alan

K0AV
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