Dave,
Thanks for checking te web site, but a little more investigating. I just
called the company and they are happy to assist with your request of the
FCC certification. Jacob from Morsen said he will happily converse via
email. He confirms they are FCC certified. Give them a call or write them
an email. He's easy to talk with and if you email support, ask them what
you want to know.
Morsen Phone: 1-319-512-3886
Support email: service@morsenled.com Subject: ATTN: Jacob, LED Growlight
FCC Certification
Here's the FCC 1-301-362-3024
https://www.fcc.gov/general/laboratory-division
FCC web site about LED Grow Lights
https://incompliancemag.com/fcc-clarifies-emissions-requirements-for-led-lights/
I have had conversations with FCC about many items and the FCC Part 15,
such Hams at Ham Fests selling *CB's converted to 10 and 12 meters are
Illegal*, *they do not comply with Part 15* anymore due to "down grade". I
never got a direct answer about the lights, but was referred to a web site,
listed above I'm sure lights do fall under the part 15, but Iwas told
there's SSDOC, FDOC, (FCOE?) FCOC I'm confused and don't want to cause
irritations but everything with current of a electrical kind emits RFI,
dish washer, wash machine, dryer, neighbors yard lights, I even pick up
cars going past the house with the electronic spark plug garbage. I usually
stay out discussions due to "opinions" and lack of courteousness.
I am not promoting nor support any business, lights or other products.
Being that I am a former *Marine,* and a Ham now,* I thought I might help a
fellow Ham and his wife. *
73,
Mike KF5YUB
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:39:02 -0700
> From: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI Digest, Vol 198, Issue 19
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> Mike,
> I can't seem to locate any reference to FCC Part 15 at the link
> provided, can you point me at the FCC certified info on their web site
> please?
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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>
> On 7/29/19 8:37 AM, Mike Pansini wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > To direstly answer the LED growing lights, find a company that is FCC
> > compliant and has proof of FCC as well as all the safety RoHS etc... Ask
> > about their return policy.
> > After reading a thread from FCC about LED grow lights, I began to
> question
> > yard and street lights as well. I talked with the FCC regarding the "grow
> > LEDs" causing interference. That's a fuzzy situation is about the answer
> I
> > got. Clearly, I was told, if something is FCC certified, either a
> sticker,
> > pamphlet, other FCC paperwork is required by the FCC to accompany the
> > product. I think it's a lot of money to certify something and not display
> > proof, be ware!! I tried a couple "FCC certified" LEDs only to find
> > problems with one manufacture stating "FCC" but no proof of FCC, and
> broken
> > electrical parts, or the product is not in compliant with FCC. They did
> > cause about a S-5, and S-3 QRN and that's not good for hearing weak
> > signals.
> > Look up *MORSEN* *Lighting*,* they are FCC certified*, and supply that
> > proof in the paperwork supplied with their products. They do cause slight
> > QRN but may be an S-1 or less I found. I hope this helps you and your
> wife
> > have fun with your hobbies at the same time. I am growing about 50 Rare
> > Hungarian Paprika Peppers, some two Habaneros and two Serrano peppers. I
> > grow bare root trees (Arbor Day Foundation), getting them ready for
> > outdoors...Golden Raintrees, Crape Mertyle bushes, Nanking Cherry bushes
> > (finally made Nanking Cherry Jelly and syrup), Bodark tree, Passion
> fruit,
> > (enclosed porch) Rubber plants, Ponytail Palm tree.
> >
> > https://www.morsenled.com/ <https://www.morsenled.com/>
> >
> > 73,
> > Mike KF5YUB
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:00 AM <rfi-request@contesting.com> wrote:
> >
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> >> 1. LED Grow Lights (Kim Elmore)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:09:50 -0500
> >> From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
> >> Subject: [RFI] LED Grow Lights
> >> Message-ID: <e76a5508-0cc1-f454-7061-c00bb023b8a2@sbcglobal.net>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> My Wife enjoys starting garden plants form seed indoors and, up until a
> >> few days ago, used a 175W metal halide lamp for the purpose. It used and
> >> electronic ballast that, sadly, has bitten the dust. A new ballast is a
> >> bit over half the cost of a much brighter and efficient LED grow light.
> >> But I'm concerned about RFI since it almost certainly uses a switching
> >> supply. Does anyone have any direct knowledge of quiet LED grow lights
> >> in the "1000W" category. (I don't know where that term comes from, but
> >> these tend to be rated at ~165 W power usage.)
> >>
> >> Kim N5OP
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, PP
> >> SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
> >>
> >> /"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
> >> practice, there is." //??? Attributed to many people; it???s so true
> that
> >> it
> >> doesn???t matter who said it./
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:26:08 +0000
> From: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
> To: Mike Pansini <kf5yub@gmail.com>
> Cc: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI Digest, Vol 198, Issue 19
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> Just a reminder of practices from China:
>
> Just because the product may carry the proper 'graffiti' on the regulatory
> label (required for all Home and Small Office electronics - FCC Class B),
> does not mean any attention has been paid to design, testing and approvals
> for EMC and Safely. I have tested and rejected many, if not most,
> products (mostly from China and even some from the US) that adhere to this
> scenario. Printing and applying labels is cheap: "How many labels do you
> need?". Designing, testing, and approving products for EMC and Safety is
> expensive (between $3K TO $30K on up, depending on complexity). Safety is
> not necessarily required in the US. However, to justify the CE mark (N O
> T standing for China Export ! ! ! ! ! ! ), both safety and EMC must be
> conducted by an approved body. Most of us know this. However, because of
> the example set by the Chinese, many legitimate US suppliers are taking a
> similar approach weighing cost against risk and reputation. Most get away
> with the practice. A very few do not.
>
> *Bottom Line:* Don't take the presence of the the proper 'graffiti' on the
> regulatory label as gospel. Request the documentation to justify what is on
> the label. Read the report in total to verify it isn't assembled from
> multiple and non-related equipment and reports (another common practice
> from China).
>
> Been there. Done that. Experienced all of the above (and then some).
>
> Dave - W?LEV
> EMC Design & Test, LLC
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:37 PM Mike Pansini <kf5yub@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> > To direstly answer the LED growing lights, find a company that is FCC
> > compliant and has proof of FCC as well as all the safety RoHS etc... Ask
> > about their return policy.
> > After reading a thread from FCC about LED grow lights, I began to
> question
> > yard and street lights as well. I talked with the FCC regarding the "grow
> > LEDs" causing interference. That's a fuzzy situation is about the answer
> I
> > got. Clearly, I was told, if something is FCC certified, either a
> sticker,
> > pamphlet, other FCC paperwork is required by the FCC to accompany the
> > product. I think it's a lot of money to certify something and not display
> > proof, be ware!! I tried a couple "FCC certified" LEDs only to find
> > problems with one manufacture stating "FCC" but no proof of FCC, and
> broken
> > electrical parts, or the product is not in compliant with FCC. They did
> > cause about a S-5, and S-3 QRN and that's not good for hearing weak
> > signals.
> > Look up *MORSEN* *Lighting*,* they are FCC certified*, and supply that
> > proof in the paperwork supplied with their products. They do cause slight
> > QRN but may be an S-1 or less I found. I hope this helps you and your
> wife
> > have fun with your hobbies at the same time. I am growing about 50 Rare
> > Hungarian Paprika Peppers, some two Habaneros and two Serrano peppers. I
> > grow bare root trees (Arbor Day Foundation), getting them ready for
> > outdoors...Golden Raintrees, Crape Mertyle bushes, Nanking Cherry bushes
> > (finally made Nanking Cherry Jelly and syrup), Bodark tree, Passion
> fruit,
> > (enclosed porch) Rubber plants, Ponytail Palm tree.
> >
> > https://www.morsenled.com/ <https://www.morsenled.com/>
> >
> > 73,
> > Mike KF5YUB
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:00 AM <rfi-request@contesting.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Send RFI mailing list submissions to
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> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. LED Grow Lights (Kim Elmore)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:09:50 -0500
> > > From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
> > > Subject: [RFI] LED Grow Lights
> > > Message-ID: <e76a5508-0cc1-f454-7061-c00bb023b8a2@sbcglobal.net>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> > >
> > > My Wife enjoys starting garden plants form seed indoors and, up until a
> > > few days ago, used a 175W metal halide lamp for the purpose. It used
> and
> > > electronic ballast that, sadly, has bitten the dust. A new ballast is a
> > > bit over half the cost of a much brighter and efficient LED grow light.
> > > But I'm concerned about RFI since it almost certainly uses a switching
> > > supply. Does anyone have any direct knowledge of quiet LED grow lights
> > > in the "1000W" category. (I don't know where that term comes from, but
> > > these tend to be rated at ~165 W power usage.)
> > >
> > > Kim N5OP
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, PP
> > > SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
> > >
> > > /"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
> > > practice, there is." //??? Attributed to many people; it???s so true
> that
> > > it
> > > doesn???t matter who said it./
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Subject: Digest Footer
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> --
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> *Dave - W?LEV*
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