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Re: [RFI] Fwd: 20 Meter Interference

To: "'K9MA'" <k9ma@sdellington.us>, <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Fwd: 20 Meter Interference
From: <r55stan@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 15:05:35 -0800
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Don't forget to also turn off any battery backup power, such as uninterruptable 
power supplies many of us use for computers, WiFi routers etc.  The inverters 
in them and the devices they power will still be on.  I once wasted a few hours 
searching for RFI that was still there after all of my circuit breakers were 
off.  Since the breakers were off I first assumed it must be from a neighbor.  
It ended up being Ethernet on CAT5 cables in my own house, which was running on 
the backup power supply.

Good luck hunting,

Randy KQ6RS

-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+r55stan=gmail.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 2:37 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Fwd: 20 Meter Interference

Yes, I discovered it by running the radio on a battery and turning off circuit 
breakers.

The culprit definitely was the wall wart. The cyclic pattern apparently was due 
to the device intermittently loading it.

73,
Scott K9MA

On 2/26/2021 2:13 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
> Did you discover this during a home power off test?
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 2/26/21 10:04 AM, K9MA wrote:
>> It turned out to be a wireless doorbell extender, right in the shack. 
>> Once again proving that one should check your own home first. I'm not 
>> sure if it's the wall wart or the device itself. It seems to have 
>> magically fixed itself after power cycling, but I'm sure it will be 
>> back.
>>
>> I suspect the 1.1 second interval between noise pulses is the polling 
>> period of the device, when it draws current from the wall wart. If a 
>> ferrite core on the power lead doesn't fix it, I'll just unplug it 
>> when operating.  Who wants to be disturbed by the doorbell then, anyway?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Scott K9MA
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:     Re: [RFI] 20 Meter Interference
>> Date:     Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:25:09 -0600
>> From:     K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
>> To:     rfi@contesting.com
>>
>>
>>
>> The spectra images didn't come through, so here are the links:
>>
>> http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m_K9MA.jpg
>> <http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m_K9MA.jpg>
>>
>> http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m1_K9MA.jpg
>> <http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m1_K9MA.jpg>
>>
>> 73,
>> Scott K9MA
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/23/2021 7:46 PM, K9MA wrote:
>>> I've recently started seeing this signal on 20 meters, probably 
>>> local, as it is present late at night when the band is dead. It is a 
>>> swept signal, typically starting at about 13.625, sweeping upward to 
>>> a sharp cutoff at about 14.125. The total sweep seems to be about
>>> 500 kHz. The sweep slows down near the upper limit and seems to 
>>> dwell there. Sweep repeats about once per second. It seems to be 
>>> amplitude modulated during the sweep, so it shows up as a series of 
>>> pulses on the waterfall display. While the frequency range seems 
>>> fairly stable, it does move around a bit. I can't tell whether the 
>>> frequency change is systematic or random.
>>>
>>> In the attached images, the blue trace is the peak signal, 
>>> accumulated over many sweeps. The yellow one is the actual signal, 
>>> without averaging, which I caught near the upper end of the sweep.
>>> The waterfall shows the pulsed modulation. Resolution bandwidth is 
>>> about 440 Hz.
>>>
>>> Any idea what this might be?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Scott K9MA
>>>
>>
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