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Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection

To: pete.n4zr@gmail.com,RFI@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection
From: <n0tt1@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 21:38:53 +0000
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 09:32:17 -0400 Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
writes:
> I think that reflector users are (or should be) appropriately aware 
> that 
> responses reflect a wide variety of interests, knowledge and 
> experience.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR

Yes, and it's called "Barbershop" or "Curbstone" advice vs paid,
professional advice.  :D)

73, Charlie N0TT

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> 
> On 8/16/2021 11:07 PM, Tim Duffy wrote:
> > Remember we are giving advice to all hams on this reflector.
> >
> > We want to insure we are giving the correct advice
> >
> > There are no short cuts to doing things the right way
> >
> > There is only one way to ground and bond - the right way.
> >
> > 73
> > Tim K3LR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces+k3lr=k3lr.com@contesting.com] On 
> Behalf Of K9MA
> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 11:03 PM
> > To: Eddie Edwards; rfi@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection
> >
> > We get plenty of lightning in Wisconsin, but in my case the shunt 
> around
> > the thrust bearing (and rotator) is mainly to prevent harmonic
> > generation when shunt feeding the tower.  If the tower gets a 
> direct
> > hit, damaged bearings will be the least of my worries.
> >
> > 73,
> > Scott K9MA
> >
> > On 8/16/2021 9:43 PM, Eddie Edwards wrote:
> >> As long as you don't get a lot of lightning up in Wisconsin, the 
> impedance of your entire ground protection system probably doesn't 
> matter as much either.  But isn't that the point of all the bonding 
> and grounding just in case?
> >> YMMV
> >>
> >> 73, de ed -K0iL
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: RFI 
> <rfi-bounces+eddieedwards=centurylink.net@contesting.com> On Behalf 
> Of K9MA
> >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 17:42
> >> To: donovanf@erols.com; rfi@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection
> >>
> >> Hi Frank,
> >>
> >> That makes sense. All I ever used it for was as a shunt around 
> the thrust bearing, for which the impedance probably wasn't that 
> critical.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Scott K9MA
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/16/2021 4:44 PM, donovanf@erols.com wrote:
> >>> Hi Scott,
> >>>
> >>> Braid is always a poor choice outdoors unless its under pressure 
> and
> >>> protected from moisture such as inside jacketed coax cable
> >>>
> >>> When its no longer under pressure and protected from moisture 
> the RF
> >>> resistance of braid goes up dramatically because the crossovers 
> in the
> >>> braid no longer conduct effectively.
> >>>
> >>> That's why the appropriate choice for an outdoor conductor is 
> stranded
> >>> wire or solid wire and never braid
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>> Frank
> >>> W3LPL
> >>>
> >>> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> --
> >>> *From: *"K9MA" <k9ma@sdellington.us>
> >>> *To: *donovanf@erols.com, rfi@contesting.com
> >>> *Sent: *Monday, August 16, 2021 9:27:16 PM
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection
> >>>
> >>> Gee, it's worked for me for years. Not much salt spray in 
> Wisconsin.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Scott K9MA
> >>>
> >>> On 8/16/2021 12:32 PM, donovanf@erols.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>       Jim,
> >>>
> >>>       Please ignore Scott's advice, it will cause tower 
> corrosion and
> >>>       quickly fail
> >>>
> >>>       73
> >>>       Frank
> >>>       W3LPL
> >>>
> >>>       
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>       *From: *"K9MA" <k9ma@sdellington.us>
> >>>       *To: *jimk8mr@aol.com
> >>>       *Cc: *rfi@contesting.com
> >>>       *Sent: *Monday, August 16, 2021 4:30:35 PM
> >>>       *Subject: *Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection
> >>>
> >>>       Or just use the braid from some RG8 and a couple hose 
> clamps.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       ----------
> >>>
> >>>       Scott Ellington. K9MA
> >>>
> >>>        --- via iPhone
> >>>
> >>>       > On Aug 16, 2021, at 9:27 AM, jimk8mr--- via RFI
> >>>       <rfi@contesting.com> wrote:
> >>>       >
> >>>       > ?The kit is basically a very heavy, very flexible 
> cable, six
> >>>       feet or so, with lugs on both ends, and clamps with a 
> large flat
> >>>       surface to attach to the mast and to the tower leg. I'd 
> think that
> >>>       the bottom lug could be attached to a tower bolt, or some 
> other
> >>>       low resistance connection to the tower.
> >>>       > It would seem to also be simple to homebrew something a 
> bit less
> >>>       rugged, perhaps using a piece of RG-8, shield and center 
> conductor
> >>>       connected together.
> >>>       >
> >>>       > 73  -   Jim   K8MR
> >>>       >
> >>>       >
> >>>       >
> >>>       > -----Original Message-----
> >>>       > From: EDWARDS, EDDIE J via RFI <rfi@contesting.com>
> >>>       > To: RFI List <rfi@contesting.com>
> >>>       > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2021 9:09 am
> >>>       > Subject: Re: [RFI] DFing intermittent connection
> >>>       >
> >>>       > Just FYi...They told me they only have the bypass kits 
> for
> >>>       standard Rohn towers, but not for the BX or HDBX series 
> towers.
> >>>        Need to make your own for other non-rohn configurations.
> >>>       >
> >>>       > 73, de ed -K0iL
> >>>       >
> >>>       > -----Original Message-----
> >>>       > From: RFI On Behalf Of jimk8mr--- via RFI
> >>>       >
> >>>       >
> >>>       > You might look into DX Engineering's Bearing Bypass 
> Ground Kits
> >>>       DXE-BBGK-2-25-P.
> >>>       > I installed one yesterday for K8AZ. I'm not sure if Tom 
> had a
> >>>       particular problem or it was just as a precaution. It easy 
> to
> >>>       install, the only issue in my case was that the tower had 
> been
> >>>       painted, so some paint scraping was in order. But much 
> easier than
> >>>       replacing a thrust bearing!
> >>>       >
> >>>       > 73  -  Jim   K8MR
> >>>       >
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> >>> --
> >>> Scott  K9MA
> >>>
> >>> k9ma@sdellington.us
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Scott  K9MA
> >>
> >> k9ma@sdellington.us
> >>
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