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Re: [RFI] Sitting position and RFI ...

To: Michael Carter <Mike.Carter@unh.edu>, "RFI@contesting.com" <RFI@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Sitting position and RFI ...
From: "QRV@kd4e.com" <QRV@kd4e.com>
Reply-to: QRV@kd4e.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:02:53 -0500
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I'm inferring that it's coming from the UHF LNA or the cellphone repeater device

but am puzzled as to how.


Perhaps it's bouncing off the wall behind me, or the ceiling?


I'm in a metal structure.


Just tried leaning in different directions ... there is an angle where it happens

and one that does not.


It doesn't happen unless I'm sitting in my office chair (which has an unplugged

roller massager on it) - I tried standing then crouching - as if seated - no static.


Our 6'4" 300lb son just got home and was standing in the doorway - suddenly

the effect ceased. Had him step away - it returned.


So, conclusion is that the signal is originating in the next room and is bouncing

off the wall behind me ... and the combination of my body and the chair is

combining to reflect it on to the HT antenna.


WDYT?


On 1/31/22 4:53 PM, Michael Carter wrote:
David,

You didn't conclusively identify the signal source that was opening
the squelch.  However, your body may be the necessary
attenuator to prevent the squelch opening in just
the right body posture.  A slight shift in posture is
enough to increase the squelch-breaking signal
strength at the HT.

For what it's worth, I use my body as an absorber
when DF'ing RFI sources with a 135 MHz handheld
receiver and a simple helical whip.  The body absorption
is sufficient to remove the whip's null direction ambiguity
when held horizontal and swung in the azimuth direction.

73,
Mike, K8CN
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Riddle me this ...

I'm sitting at my desk and my handheld is sitting on a wood shelf

just behind the HP laptop.

The HT is on and set to monitor 146.670 (it has long thin flex antenna).

All of a sudden the squelch opened to static.

I walked around with it and it seemed that the source might be the

inline UHF amplifier that feeds two rtl-sdr devices, or the cellphone

repeater. Note: Both devices are located on the other side of a 4x8'

steel door from the handheld, laptop, and me.

When I sat back down at my desk it was quiet, then when I moved,

it started, again.

Yup, it's responding to the position of my body relative to the laptop

and mouse.

Sitting back, away from the desk opens the squelch, leaning forward

quiets it.

WDYT?

David KD4E

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