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Re: [RTTY] Winlink

To: "Skip Teller" <hteller@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Winlink
From: "Wayne Matlock" <k7wm@i10net.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:44:18 -0000
List-post: <mailto:rtty@contesting.com>
I hope this is/has been forwarded to "bandwidth". I wrote them a lengthy
letter listing my objections and wish I had this info to include. Thanks for
posting and hopefully everybody will get off their duffs and get their
objections in. They are keeping this little surprise very low key. 73 to all
Wayne, K7WM k7wm@i10net.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Skip Teller" <hteller@comcast.net>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 23:40 PM
Subject: [RTTY] Winlink


> Frank Fallon wrote:
>
> "As an ARRL Director and a member of the ARRL Board Executive Committee
> that is studying the issue of a  "Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal" I
> feel I must correct some of your blatant errors in fact."
>
> "6. There is currently NO widespread deployment of SBC Pactor III modems
> in the USA."
>
> "8. Most Winlink traffic is confined to UHF/VHF.  Even if eventually
> fully deployed there would be no more than 75 HF gateway stations.  Few
> of those would be operating Pactor III and they would not all be
> operating at the same time.  And those operating would be on only a few
> frequencies.  Fears of Winlink taking over HF are not realistic.  Few
> hams are going to spring for $1500 for a modem to do it."
>
> Frank,
>
> Based on the following information from the Winlink website,
www.winlink.org, EVERY Winlink
> PMBO, except for one, is equipped with a Pactor-III modem, contrary to
your point 6.
>
> Out of 22 Winlink mainland stations listed, 21 use Pactor-III modems, and
utilize 51
> different frequencies with transmissions up to 2400 Hz wide, if my count
of the below
> listing is correct. You can multiply these numbers and the QRM by almost
four times if all
> 75 gateway stations are deployed.
> Based on http://winlink.org/status/ :
>
>  Telnet Messages Received or Delivered  21841
>  Telpac Messages Received or Delivered  0
>  WEB Messages Received or Delivered  Not Available
>  VHF Messages Received or Delivered  890
>  HF Messages Received or Delivered  150356
>  HF Minutes Air Time (All Stations)  295896
>  HF Average Minutes Air Time Per Message  1.97
>  HF Average Message Size (Characters)  1635
>  Total Messages Received or Delivered  173087
>
> HF messages totaled 150,356 compared to 890 on VHF, contrary to your point
8.
>
> I hope you did not take such misformation to the Executive Committee
meeting, and I hope
> the rest of the members of the Executive Committee are not similary
misinformed!
>
> Winlink is a "sleeping giant", and if not contained, will cover the bands
we use for
> contesting, Dxing, award-chasing, and ragchewing with signals FIVE (5)
times as wide as
> RTTY, randomly destroying QSO's if anyone happens to land on their
PUBLISHED frequencies,
> either here or abroad.
>
> If everyone fails to get involved in this, and email comments to
bandwidth@arrl.org as ARRL
> has requested, then they will have to suffer the consequences of
non-action.
>
> Isn't it time to wake up and see what is about to happen to our hobby!
>
> 73, Skip KH6TY
>
> ******from www.winlink.org ************************
>
> KA6IQA Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7066.9   7101.2(P3)   14112.4   14104.2(P3)
> 18102.9 18106.7(P3)   (13:00 to 03:00  UTC)
>
> KB6YNO  Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7063.9   10124.9   14063.9   14108.9(P3)  18098.9
>
> KQ4ET  Scan Center Frequencies:
> 3628.7 (all Pactor modes)    7067.9(P2) 10146.5(P3)  141110(P3)
>
> K4CJX Center Scan Frequencies :
> Station # 1: 7076.9 (P2)   7101.2 (P3)  14076.9 (P2)   14106.7(P3)
> Station # 2:  10123.9 (P2)  10141.2(P3)
> Station # 3:  18103.9 (P2)  18108.7(P3)
>
> K4SET Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7074.9  7103.7(P3)   10,136.9  10143.4P3)    21073.9    21095.2 (P3)
>
> K6CYC Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7069.9   10123.9   10143.7# - Omni-directional
> 21068.9   21096.2(P3)   14068.9   14102.7(P3)  - Beaming South Pacific
>
> W7IJ Scan Center Frequencies:
> Station 1:  3631.9(P3)  7068.9(P2)   7103.7 (P3)   10139.5 (P2)
> Station 2:  14069.4 (P2)    14110.0 (P3)    21077.9 (P2)     21091.2 (P2)
>
> K6IXA Scan Center Frequencies:
> Station # 1:  10122.9    10143.7(P3),
> Station # 2:  14064.9    14102.7(P3)
>
> K7AAE Scan Center Frequencies:
> Station # 1:  3629.9   7076.9  10133.9   10145.7(P3)
> Station # 2:  14067.9  14109.2(P3)
>
> N8PGR Scan  Center Frequencies:
> 3621.9    7071.9    10140.4    14117.9
> Pactor-II only
>
> N0IA Scan Center Frequencies:
> 3626.9   7072.9   10133.9   14072.9   14098.7(P3)    18106.2(P3)
>
> WA2DXQ Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7074.9   10143.7(P3)   14075.9   14101.7(P3)
> HF Packet Port: 144.93 MHz 1200 Baud AX.25
> 7074.9   10143.7(P3)   14075.9   14101.7(P3)
>
> WB5KSD Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7075.9   10132.9   14078.9   14109.2 (P3)
>
> Express* PMBO" WB0TAX Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7103.7 (P3)   10133.9   10143.7 (P3)   14066.9 (P2)   14096.2 (P3)
18106.2 (P3)
>
> WD8DHF Scan Center Frequencies:
> Station #1:  3590.9  7075.4   70103.7 (P3)   10,127.9
> Station #2:  14075.4   14098.7 (P3)   18075,4   18107.9 (P3)
> Station # 3:  21075.4  21091.2 (P3)
>
> WU3V Scan Center Frequencies:
> 3631.2 (ALL) 7074.9  7103.7(P3)   10126.9  10143.4(P3)   14069
14102.7(P3)
>
> WX4J Scan Center Frequencies:
> 3622.4 (3620.9) P3 7066.9 (7065.4) 10143.4 (10141.9) P3 14066.9 (14065.4)
>
> W1ON Scan Center Frequencies:
> 3620.9   7070.9   14075.9    14104.2(P3)   18100.9
>
> W6IM Scan Center  frequencies:
> Dipole - 7073.9, 10141.2(P3)
> Beam (135 deg) - 14073.9  14098.7(P3)
>
> W7BO Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7.067.9   7101.2(P3)
>
> W9GSS Scan Center Frequencies:
> 7072.9   14073.9   14109.9(P3)   21098.0 (P3)
>
> W9MR Scan Center Frequencies:*
> 7065.9   10145.2#  14069.9   14101.7#
>  * "#" Indicates a Pactor III only frequency.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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