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Re: [RTTY] RTTY Radio IC7600 vs IC700 vs FT5000

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Radio IC7600 vs IC700 vs FT5000
From: iw1ayd <iw1ayd@googlemail.com>
Reply-to: iw1ayd@googlemail.com
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 01:18:05 +0200
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Yes.
The plain answer to that question, LA6FJA,  is yes. There is the a 3 
time pushing actions, just  fiddling buttons to enable the TPF with the 
250 Hz filter for the 7600 and for the 7700. To move from the largest 
filter to the tight filter and the TPF you will need to push two times 
the filter button and one time the TPF button, a 3 time action.
To fold back on the largest filter you need again to push the TPF button 
and one times filter button, a 2 time action.

This will give a lengthy manual filtering switchover time for the newest 
ICOM opposed to the oldest as the PROIII, in each way a 1 time action.

Out of the Chen's, W7AY, arguments, on which I agree but with a somewhat 
different point of view, I would say some more words.

As I wrote some time ago all this "push-buttoning" could be overcome  
easily if you use the "right" logger program. For me it is N1MM. There 
is plenty of definable macro buttons inside it. Anyone could easily 
program those macro to send commands as to switch on filter bandwidth 
and the TPF on OFF. There are several places to get any help about that.

I was lastly forced to work by this way on my FLEX-3000 as there is 
quite nothing to physically touch, it's a SDR BTW, and the mouse filter 
setting is hardly repeatable when I do this by my hands.

After a positive experience on the FLEX I went back on more workable 
radios for multi two or multi multi. Still owning two PROIII, I bought  
back the newest ICOM transceivers. After reselling some other oldest 
radio. Now and since than I am using the same technique, 3 macro to 
switch betweens the filter widths and two macros to switch the TPF ON 
and OFF respectively. No radio touch for the filters, I use just the VFO 
knob and some more knobs as needed. Having the logger in focus during 
contest and not the radio it's a good point, not for all the operations 
but almost for all.

About the loggers I know that there are more useful logger out there but 
I don't like all of those and they don't like me not having the same and 
unique macro flexibility, at by the number  of those, as i find in N1MM.

Now I have the same way to operate on the FLEX, on the IC-7600 and on 
the IC-7700 and also the PROIII.Not having to fiddle buttons for filters 
it's a great improvement during contests.

Last words are, if you live in a not awfully dense environment of clean 
RF signal get the ICOM, have the N1MM and click yours mouse or trackball 
focusing operations on air during any contests or pile-ups and not the 
radio. If you live in a dense environment of not clean RF signals, no 
way. There are several middle point, for ICOM, for FLEX or other SDR and 
even for the 5000 or the K3.

That's just what I experienced.

                       73 de iw1ayd

PS there is be a lot more to say about the ancient paradigms we are 
today experiencing in ours world, about radios, softwares and PCs but it 
will be too long here. As SDR's are made to looks as an old radio how it 
could be that ours software, inside or outside the radios, could be made 
to do better what we need. I am making it too easy I know.

> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:24:00 +0200
> From: "Stein Roar Brobakken"<s-roabr@online.no>
> Subject:
> To:<rtty@contesting.com>
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>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Is there anyone out there which have compared or tested a FT5000 on RTTY ?
>
> I know ICOM IC7600 have DUAL peak filter for RTTY, but people complained
> over too many buttons to touch compared to the PRO III.
>
> Is there same 5 x buttons on IC7700 to get the DUAL peak RTTY filter for
> 7700 in RTTY too ??
>
>
>
> 73s LA6FJA
>
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