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Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:09:28 -0500
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> How about such a thinkable solution?

How about all contests eliminate countries as multipliers in Europe?
Instead go to CQ or ITU zones and include zone in the exchange?  Or
you can adopt the WAE and JARTS format and use the prefix without
regard to physical location.

Either solution is inherently more appropriate and logical than
applying your country's rules to licensees of another country.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/9/2013 7:46 AM, GL-DJ3IW-Web wrote:
Thanks Phil

for your various messages on this subject.
As one of the DRCG and having been envolved in rule making and
log checking for the DRCG contests LDC and DL-DX I must support
Phil's position.

An easy solution to this problem would be that contest sponsors
just drop the US call areas from the multipliers list. One QSO
with just one USA station and you got the one USA mutliplier you
are looking for. Despite everybody loosing up to nine possible
multipliers there is still a "level playing field". For Euopean
contesters this would even eliminiate the "struggle" for those
elusive westcoast multipliers.
Australian, Canadian and Japanese stations would continue to provide
call area mutltipliers.
How about such a thinkable solution?

73 de Goetz DJ3IW
----- Original Message ----- From: " pcooper" <pcooper@guernsey.net>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)


Hi all,

Well, thanks for all the responses!
Yes, I do appreciate that the comparison between G, GU etc and W is
not a good one, but it was the only way I could think of explaining it.

Now, several folk kindly emailed me direct to say things like - Yes,
but G.GU etc are different DXCC's, with which I agree.
By the same token, KL7/KH6/KP2 are ALSO different DXCC's, but you
still find some in RTTY contests operating from the "lower 48".
I even got a KH8 in one contest that was on mainland America.

I don't know the answer to this, but does the FCC require that you
sign differently if you are operating away from your home address?
In the UK, if we are operating somewhere other than our designated
home address, we must sign /P for any temporary address, or /A from an
"alternative" address, where the alternative is somewhere designated
on our licence.

Let's say that you are W6XXX operating from Florida, and you enter the
BARTG contest as W6XXX only.
If your log was to be classed as a check-log only, because you weren't
following the rules, would you be annoyed?
Maybe contests that use US call areas as mults ought to enforce this
part of the rule?
Apart from the BARTG contest, there is the EA RTTY contest, DL-DX,
DRCG LDC, SARTG, JARTS, and WAEDC all use US (and some also include
VE/JA/VK) call areas as mults, so please don't just single out BARTG
for criticism.

Thanks again for all the comments.

73 de Phil GU0SUP
(definitely in GU!)



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