This is so obvious and ingrained, its out of my consciousness. And, yes, the
CQ WW Committee added it to the rules a couple years ago. Our reason was that
some "errant" stations were cleansing their log after the contest with
databases to correct busted calls. That's unfortunate because the real reason
is for accurate (fast) communication of a correct(ed) call, which is the whole
point of contesting.
73,
Ed W0YK
On Sep 28, 2015 5:13 PM, Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The main reason to resend their call in the TU is if they corrected you (or
> you corrected yourself) and you want to acknowledge the correction (and per
> the CQWW rules, you actually are required to!) Note that this also applies
> to CW etc. ;)
>
> Since this is a rare occurrence it doesn't go in my TU message, and I will
> hit my "hiscall" button before the TU or ESM, as needed.
>
> In general, it is much better to resolve "call doubt" before the TU by
> direct confirmation, then hope that he shouts out corrections after the TU.
> If you have any doubt, ask.
>
> I like my TU as short as possible because it helps me when the exchange has
> gone long on this radio to get back to the other radio faster.
>
> 73 jeff wk6i
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Ken K6MR <k6mr@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > I only wonder why we don’t do that on cw. Same problem, but I rarely hear
> > anyone do it on cw. I guess whatever works for you is the way to go.
> >
> > Tnx,
> >
> > Ken K6MR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David G3YYD
> > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 13:29
> > To: rtty@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] SO2R
> >
> >
> > Simple it is the last opportunity that he has to ensure I have his call
> > correct (I lose points for incorrect call) and for that station if he has
> > QRM to know I have successfully worked him. In a busy contest I find it
> > saves working a dupe later on because I am not in his log as he did not
> > have confirmation I had worked him that first time. It also reduces the not
> > in log count again I lose points.
> >
> > In a quiet contest it is unnecessary as QRM is so much less, but then you
> > have more time between QSOs so may as well leave it in.
> >
> > So bottom line it can be left out but the risk is more busted calls and
> > NIL. It is a trade off a bit longer (about 1.5 seconds) against lost points.
> >
> > 73 David G3YYD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ken K6MR
> > Sent: 28 September 2015 20:18
> > To: rtty@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] SO2R
> >
> > I’m still relatively new at this so the answer to this question may be
> > “we’ve always done it this way…”
> >
> > After GM3XXX sends his exchange, why do you send his call again (GM3XXX TU
> > M7T QRZ) ? You sent his call, he responded, so you have the call correct.
> > Seems like wasted bits and time. And if that TU message gets garbled the
> > other station might think you have the call wrong. A simple TU M7T QRZ
> > would appear to be enough.
> >
> > I see most people do it (I don’t) but I don’t see the reason.
> >
> > Ken K6MR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David G3YYD
> > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:24
> > To: rtty@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] SO2R
> >
> >
> > As a SO2R operator the CQ call is key. If made too short, for instance CQ
> > M7T, then it does not give enough time for a complete reply to my CQ call
> > on the other radio to be made. The idea is to time it so as soon as one
> > radio has finished it is time to transmit on the other.
> >
> > As a consequence I use CQ M7T M7T M7T CQ this gives sufficient time for
> > someone to call me on the other radio with GM3XXX GM3XXX. Then there is no
> > apparent delay in my answer to GM3XXX and it allows me to send GM3XXX 59914
> > GM3XXX, While someone is calling me on the other radio in response to my CQ
> > call.
> >
> > Of course it falls apart if someone calls me after a CQ with M7T M7T de
> > GM3XXX GM3XXX GM3XXX PSE K which unfortunately too many people do. I know
> > my call so please do not send it and de is a total waste of time as for PSE
> > K enough said. If you have a call that is GM3XXX then twice is sufficient
> > if you have a short callsign like my contest call then M7T three times is
> > OK.
> >
> > Then at the end of the contact I reply GM3XXX TU M7T QRZ again
> > sufficiently long to enable someone to call me on the other radio or send
> > the exchange so I can reply to them without any apparent delay.
> >
> > I also make use of the ESC key to cut short messages on a radio so I can
> > initiate the reply on the other radio faster. So for instance CQ maybe
> > truncated so it becomes CQ M7T M7T.
> >
> > By the way if you think SO2R is complex then I also operate the radios
> > second receivers as well when a contest slows up.
> >
> > 73 David G3YYD aka M7T in contests
> >
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