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Re: [RTTY] RTTY and Skimmer was: Re: Decoder performance on crowded band

To: Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY and Skimmer was: Re: Decoder performance on crowded bands
From: Lee Sawkins <ve7cc@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:44:30 -0600 (MDT)
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At risk of being shot at for self promotion I would like to say that although 
clusters running CC Cluster software are not using the CT1BOH algorithm , in my 
opinion what CC Clusters use is better. They are using the Levenshtein 
algorithm, which is at the heart of the CT1BOH routine. CC Cluster nodes do not 
give users a quality number for spots, they just drop what I consider to be bad 
spots. When I am contesting I just want to see good spots. I think this is what 
99% of the users want. 

CC Cluster software also detects whether calls are valid for certain countries 
and drops those which fail. These calls are labelled "not licensed". For US 
calls, the latest FCC data is used. Calls like NS0RCWT and W1AYD, which are 
both "busts", are "not licensed". For JA calls, those like "JK1AA" are dropped 
as the only 2 letter Japanese calls beginning with "J" can be for JAx prefixes 
or JR6 prefixes. Calls ending with "/1J" are dropped as the country is invalid. 
Duplicate spots from different networks are treated as duplicates and dropped. 

Although individual Skimmers may only report spots every 10 minutes, during 
busy contests, Skimmers all get out of sync with each other and almost 
continuous spotting occurs for stations with big signals such 9A1A. Since N1MM 
software labels spots within the last 3 minutes as new, CC Cluster software 
spots the same calls after 3 minutes to keep the "new" tag next to them in the 
band map. That way you know which ones are more likely to still be there. 

Lee 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@frontier.com> 
To: rtty@contesting.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:05:35 PM 
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY and Skimmer was: Re: Decoder performance on crowded 
bands 

One thing I wondered about was the 'not licensed' stations being spotted. 
They are not legal to work as hams are not allowed to talk to someone who 
is not a ham (other than on a station controlled legally by someone). You 
would think these would just not be posted. 73 
Tom W7WHY 

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Michael Adams <mda@n1en.org> wrote: 

> Today, skimmers report once every 10 minutes while a station is detected 
> running. 
> 
> I wonder, if that logic were tweaked to adjust that window to report 
> "every 10 minutes or after another station has been spotted on that same 
> frequency, whichever comes first", could the CT1BOH skimbusted/skimverify 
> logic be tweaked somehow to warn about possible S&P callers. 
> 
> Similarly...does there need to be an adjustment in the skimbusted logic to 
> allow consideration of garble tables for RTTY spots? 
> 
> Finally, elsewhere in this thread, I believe I remember seeing that 
> another node operator was getting feeds from both the RBN and from DL4RCK's 
> system. I have been doing that on my node, but I am discontinuing the 
> DL4RCK feed after my CQWW RTTY experience. On AR v6, duplicate spots from 
> the different networks are being parsed as non-dupes, which impacts the 
> CT1BOH logic. 
> 

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