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Re: [RTTY] A Question for Chen... Soundcards?

To: Kok Chen <rtty@w7ay.net>, RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] A Question for Chen... Soundcards?
From: Michael Haack via RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Michael Haack <mikehaack@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:42:57 -0500
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Thanks, Chen. Thanks, Ed.

The question more to the point, And Ed you got there before I did...
Is the higher DSP and processing capabilities of the external soundcards an advantage for RTTY Dxing, Or is it not really necessary?

Chen, I thought I recalled you had done some piece on the subject but wasn't sure.

Thanks Guys.





On 2016-03-24 4:06 PM, Kok Chen wrote:
On Mar 24, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Michael Haack via RTTY wrote:

Is there a decided advantage to using a high powered external sound card vs the 
internal card for RTTY/MMTTY/2tone use?
I am not sure what you mean by a "high powered" sound card.  Sound card works 
with millivolts to hundreds of millivolts, and very high input impedances.  Very little 
power involved.

If you mean the dynamic range of the sound card, I think I have already 
addressed that in an earlier posting.

You can measure your own sound card by using free spectrum analyzer programs 
that exists in all the OS platforms that I know. (On Mac OS X, you can use my 
Amici spectrum analyzer/tracking generator program.)

With the radio tuned to atmospheric noise (no signal), measure the difference 
between the noise floor and the full scale (clipping level).

If you are running 48000 samples/second, there is another 27 dB or so of 
available dynamic range from the processing gain from a good modem.  If you use 
24000, samples per second, you have 3 dB less (24 dB processing gain).

Add the processing gain to what you measured earlier, and you pretty much have 
the dynamic range of your modem.

If this number is greater than your receiver's dynamic range, the sound card is 
adequate.  If this number is worse than your receiver, you will either need to 
use a better sound card, or ride the gain of the sound card so that a signal is 
always higher than the noise floor, but is not clipping.

If you are using a wideband system (e.g., for a skimmer or a wideband RTTY 
demodulator), you will also need to measure the intermodulation distortion and 
the harmonic distortion of the sound card.

73
Chen, W7AY



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