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Subject: [SECC] US qso's
From: W4NZ at comcast.net (Ted Bryant)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:49:59 -0500
Since this subject seems to come up each year after the contest, doesn't it
indicate there are areas in the rules which could be improved? I'm surprised
this hasn't already popped up on the CQ-CONTEST reflector.

I agree with Dave that the CQWW rules committee will never allow points for
US-US or other same-zone/same-country QSO's.  It would likely totally change
the "flavor" of (and ruin, imho) the contest.

The idea of allowing zero-point QSO's in any contest where we judge results
based on score runs completely against the competitive nature of that same
contest.

In previous discussions it was pointed out that since the CQWW is a "DX"
contest, allowing multiplier credit for same-country or same-zone QSO's
violates that premise. It was suggested that these QSO's be disallowed
completely, nullifying the whole issue of points. Doing this would affect
those places where an "entity" covers a complete zone.  Stations in that
zone would lose their zone/country as a multiplier. But there are very few
of these situations: Zone 2 in Canada and Zone 6 (Mexico, including XF4) and
zone 18/19 Asiatic Russia.

Some will argue, "Well, I can't work all 40 zones."  Or, "I'll lose two
multipliers." (Where's the "DX" in working the zone/country you're sitting
in?)

But, if the potential loss of a couple of multipliers for a very few
stations is the price to pay for "fixing" the zero-point issue, it seems to
me it is well worth it.

Thanks for allowing my 2-cents from an interested "outsider" (though I do
participate on the SE Sprint Coalition teams)

73, Ted W4NZ



-----Original Message-----
From: secc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:secc-bounces at contesting.com]On
Behalf Of David Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:14 PM
To: Courtney Judd K4WI; ACG
Cc: SECC
Subject: Re: [SECC] US qso's


I don't think CQ WW will ever let us count points for US to US Q's.
Everyone else will howl.  Non NA DX  don't like the 2 point rule as it is.

The best we can hope for is that the US stations we work put the QSO in the
log.

Years ago (1979) when I was operating Single Band 40 K3WW and K0RF called me
for the mult.  Chas told me he could count on his QSO being in the log.  So
this has been going on for a long time.

73 Dave K4JRB


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