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Subject: [TRLog] Re: Editing...
From: s57ad@s55tcp.ampr.org (s57ad@s55tcp.ampr.org)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 17:27:31 EDT
Gentleman,

the only thing where TR might be a bit 'worse' than CT/NA seems
possibility of navigating thru the log file and editing it.

>>I asked a couple of the competitors why they weren't using TR--the reason
>> given was "difficulty in error recovery".

>Fast would also be important as this would most likely  see
>action during a contest. I think quite a few (or maybe I'm the only 
>one that makes logging mistakes Hi Hi) have resorted to the alt-n 
>or the jot it down stuff to make changes later. 

>I think fixing an entry during the contest while everthing is fresh 
>is better. 

What could be better than 'on-line' editing of *current* QSO?

TR has lot of tools for correcting logging mistakes either in real
time either after the battle:

- Partial (and Possible) call accept key (along with the TRMASTER
database and previous contacts with certain string, saved in the
RESTART.BIN)

- Alt-F10 ('Is your call xxxxx?') 

- Callsign Update feature  (set CALLSIGN UPDATE ENABLE = TRUE in
Ctrl-J menu and enter correct call in the Exchange window)

- Alt-E (Up Arrow) and editing in the editable window

- Ctrl-N along with post contest error recovery 

>Having to exit to dos, run an editor, open a file, change 
>it , save it, exit the editor, and then run tr again to make  a 
>modification is too complicated and very slow. A quick easy alt-e 
>type toggle to an editor would be slick.

Is it *really* neccessary to edit stuffs during huge pile-ups? 
(In last IARU contest, I corrected all miscoppied calls 'on-line'
and didn`t put even single note in the log.  Twice or three 
times, when screwed up, had to use paddle to send corrected 
call, but, generally, I wrote corrected call in the Exchange window,
and it works superb indeed)!

Using Callsign Update feature and/or puting note in the log is
fast enough, and is (as for me) *faster* than navigating thru 
the log file ,searching for certain string and editing it. 
Anyway, stuffs 15 Q`s back are no fresh anymore, :-) 

>>So, please tell me what else needs to be done to make it easier?

Have no ideas.  TR is *great* with its ASCII log file and simpicity 
which allows usage of even old 286 machines with 600 kB conventional 
memory only!  Such old machines are available at almost no cost even 
here in Slovenia. I know personally lot of people (hams) which bought    
old, 'third hand' 286`s (paid few bottles of beer for them) and begun 
to study DOS basics, play with simulator, etc... The oldest one I know
(and sold him TR) is near his 70!  He even uses TR for his daily general 
QSOing!  With his retirement incomings he can`t even dream to buy 
Pentium and CT, etc... Do not forget - 90 % of people you work in the   
contests are using average stations with average antennas and have 
just average incomings. And, of course, inexpensive computers in 
286 - 386DX class...  TR with low price nad richness of features is
superb choice for them.  Don`t let them down, please!  Oportunity of
'full screen editing" costs too much - at least, it would require 
some extra MB of memory, etc, or, otherwise, TR would lost some of 
flexibility and speed. 

Mirko, S57AD

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