Hmmm.... This doesn't match the ARRL/QST Labs results as printed in
their review of the VI+. The keying waveshape was textbook perfect. In
monitoring my own signal both in my shack and at a friend's QTH about 10
miles away, there are no discernable clicks. (Yes there is the
microchirp, which I consider a minor annoyance.) So, has something
changed, or what's the real story?
73, Duane
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:29:45 -0600 Ron Feutz <feutz@wctc.net> writes:
> How about this, guys?
>
> I have always been under the impression that my signal was clean and
> the
> Yaesu guys were screwing up the bands.
>
> Ron - WA9IRV Omni 6+
>
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> >Virtually all of today's modern rigs have a key click problem. The
> stock
> >FT-1000MP and Mk V CW signal rise time is 2.4 ms and the fall time
> is 1.0
> >ms. This is on every dit and dah. The ARRL criteria for "clean"
> keying
> >is a rise and fall time of 5.0 ms. After the INRAD keying
> improvment
> >mod, the rise time is 4 ms and the fall time is 2.2 ms. It
> certainly
> >improves the keying, but not enough, which is why I'm going to do
> the
> >W8JI key click mod on my MP.
> >
> >A friend has an IC-756 PRO which has clicks extending out at least
> +/- 1
> >kHz. Another has a late-model IC-775DSP which has clicks as bad or
> worse
> >than the FT-1000MP. Additionally, you can hear a "thump" on his
> first
> >dit or dah when he is operating split. Earlier model 775s have
> the
> >additional problem of generating a signal from the receive VFO
> when
> >operating split (becoming worse as the split frequency is smaller),
> >clearly an FCC violation. Icom knows about this problem because
> they
> >will upgrade the early version if the owner complains, but they
> won't
> >publicly confirm this problem.
> >
> >Many topbanders prefer the Omni VI+ because of its superior QSK
> and
> >excellent receiver. But even it has bad clicks. INRAD has thus
> far
> >unsuccessfully tried to develop a mod to correct this. George,
> W2UVG
> >(owner of INRAD) told me, "I have spent many hours working on the
> Omni
> >VI+ keying and ALC loop as it has a similar problem. The keying
> waveform
> >out of the first mixer is text book perfect, 5 mS up and down.
> Then it
> >goes through the ALC loop and the output has 1 mS rise time and 5
> mS fall
> >time. This loop has a very slow decay time, and it doesn't change
> the
> >input shape. If I disable the ALC loop the radio puts out 100
> watts and
> >the keying is perfect. But there is no power control, etc."
> >
> >Jim, N7JW has overcome the Omni VI+ click problem by using an
> FT-1000MP
> >with the W8JI key click mod to transmit and an Omni VI+ to receive.
> It
> >would be nice if all hams (especially topband contesters) were as
> >concerned about having a clean CW signal as N7JW is.
> >
> >I'm not sure how the modern Kenwood radios are as far as clicks
> go.
> >
> >73, de Earl, K6SE
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Duane Calvin, AC5AA
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