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Re: [TenTec] Re: Orion rf gain and inherent noise

To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re: Orion rf gain and inherent noise
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:58:19 -1000
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does COLD help cut the noise down ?

Yes, but at HF the noise from other sources (as long as you have an antenna connected, and a decent receiver) should be so much higher that it will not matter whether the first stage of your receiver is at 300 K (approximately room temperature) or cooled to cryogenic temperatures. At higher frequencies, where terrestrial noise is lower, the temperature of the front end of the receiver does matter.


Radio astronomers cool LNAs to VERY low temperatures (around 20 Kelvin or about -425 deg F) to achieve very low noise temperatures. A bit chilly compared to the typical home freezer :-)

The receivers I maintain use a SIS (superconductor, insulator, superconductor) mixer as the first stage, because there are no LNAs for their frequency of operation, which is about 211 GHz and up. The mixer is cooled to liquid helium temperature, around 3.6 K. Then after downconverting to the first IF (4 GHz) the first stage of amplification is called a HEMT (high electron mobility transistor) amplifier, which is cooled to around 10 or 20 K.

In the HF range, I don't see a need to resort to the ice machine. Standard design techniques and modern components can get you NF performance much better than band noise will let you reasonably make use of.
This is absolutely true, including if by modern you mean in the last 50 years or so.

Check this out.

http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/JACpublic/JCMT/Heterodyne_observing/heterodyne_observing.html

DE N6KB
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