If you are serious, I have a nice FT-757 from the estate of Dean
Matthews, AD4OD, that I am trying help his teenage son move.
Pickett, AD4S
Subject:
[TenTec] FT 757 vs Orion
From:
"Paul DeWitte K9OT" <k9ot@mhtc.net>
Date:
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:00:03 -0500
To:
<TenTec@contesting.com>
I do not have an Orion to compare to a 757 but about 15 years ago a friend
of mine had a 757. She brought it to my shack and we A/B compared it to my
Omni series C. The Omni could hear ANYTHING that the 757 could hear plus on
the Omni you did not have to listen to all of that noise that make you tired
and want to turn it off. The bottom line was when the 757 developed a
problem it went down the road and a Corsair II took its place.
Having operated a couple of 757s, it would be a rig of last resort in my
shack.
73 Paul K9OT
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Subject:
Re: [TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits
From:
"Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
Date:
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:17:32 -0400
To:
<tentec@contesting.com>, <w3uls@3n.net>, <topband@contesting.com>,
<TenTec_Orion@yahoogroups.com>, <1000mp@mailman.qth.net>, <k6se@juno.com>
And ... Good for you, Jim !!
I'm very impressed by the calm, even-handed way in which you have handled
this important discussion.
regards,
Gary, AA2IZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Reid" <jimr.reid@verizon.net>
To: <w3uls@3n.net>; <topband@contesting.com>;
<TenTec_Orion@yahoogroups.com>; <1000mp@mailman.qth.net>; <k6se@juno.com>;
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:09 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits
Aloha all,
I asked,
"Just believe a real explanation about why is deserved."
And Earl has responded:
==========
Since my explanation about a week ago I've tried to solve
whatever the difference was when I first got the Orion and
my later A/B tests.
True, when I first tried it on 160m (which was not an A/B test,
BTW) I was elated by the apparent results.
Oh, well ok, it sounded as if it were an A/B test, but going back
and reading your May 20th post, I see you did not claim it to
be, fair enough.
Earl continues:
I've come to the conclusion that tere are two possibilities:
1) As you may or may not know, when I initially received my
Orion there was a firmware problem with the preamp ON/OFF.......
2) The other reason might be that something went awry with
my Orion.
My Orion is now at the factory undergoing stringent testing. If they
find something wrong with it and fix it and the radio performs like it
appeared to in my initial test, I told them to cancel the refund and
return the radio to me. And, in that case, the Orion will be elevated
from its last place position on my list.
That's where it stands now.
Outstanding!! Just as I suspected the entire time, hi. The
initial and test boundary conditions were actually unknown
during each "test", and the various, and much influencing
Orion parameter settings were not recorded, so we have
no idea what the threshold was of the AGC used (though
Earl has reported that he used the "prog" AGC in his later
test).
Where "it" stands now, as Earl has reported is exactly the
correct place. All is open to further testing AFTER we know
the condition of the test Orion, AND we have written down,
and reported ALL the conditions of the various Orion parameter
settings. This was all required in my engineering notebook
when I was at Raytheon, Zenith Radio, etc. in those long,
long ago bygone days, hi.
Earl is on the correct path now. Good for him!
Mahalo and 73, Jim KH7M
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Subject:
[TenTec] Re: K8MN's Orion
From:
Peg Haese <haesem@uwplatt.edu>
Date:
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:45:02 -0500
To:
tentec@contesting.com
Dave,
If you've had your Orion for a month-and-a-half, it is a little past
Ten-Tec's 30-day return window. Isn't that the exact rig that Earl K6SE
tried out and returned? If you haven't been able to move it yet, TT
should be able to work out a trade for you, or at least give you scrap
value.
73 de Peg KB9LIE
>I've had the Orion for about a month-and-a-half. It has been my
opinion that it has the finest receiver I've ever used.
>Now I'm filled with self-doubt. I'm beginning to think I should sell
the piece of crap and buy a second-hand FT-757 ;-)
>What to do, what to do...
>Dave Heil K8MN
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