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[TenTec] Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 6, Issue 64

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Subject: [TenTec] Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 6, Issue 64
From: jpcummins@charter.net (John P. Cummins, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jun 25 13:40:30 2003
If you are serious, I have a nice FT-757 from the estate of Dean 
Matthews, AD4OD, that I am trying help his teenage son move.

Pickett, AD4S


> 
> Subject:
> [TenTec] FT 757 vs Orion
> From:
> "Paul DeWitte K9OT" <k9ot@mhtc.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:00:03 -0500
> To:
> <TenTec@contesting.com>
> 
> 
> I do not have an Orion to compare to a 757 but about 15 years ago a friend
> of mine had a 757. She brought it to my shack and we A/B compared it to my
> Omni  series C. The Omni could hear ANYTHING that the 757 could hear plus on
> the Omni you did not have to listen to all of that noise that make you tired
> and want to turn it off.  The bottom line was when the 757 developed a
> problem it went down the road and a Corsair II took its place.
> Having operated a couple of 757s, it would be a rig of last resort in my
> shack.
> 73 Paul K9OT
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Subject:
> Re: [TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits
> From:
> "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:17:32 -0400
> To:
> <tentec@contesting.com>, <w3uls@3n.net>, <topband@contesting.com>, 
> <TenTec_Orion@yahoogroups.com>, <1000mp@mailman.qth.net>, <k6se@juno.com>
> 
> 
> And ... Good for you, Jim !!
> 
> I'm very impressed by the calm, even-handed way in which you have handled
> this important discussion.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Gary, AA2IZ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Reid" <jimr.reid@verizon.net>
> To: <w3uls@3n.net>; <topband@contesting.com>;
> <TenTec_Orion@yahoogroups.com>; <1000mp@mailman.qth.net>; <k6se@juno.com>;
> <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:09 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits
> 
> 
> 
>>Aloha all,
>>
>>I asked,
>>
>>
>>>"Just believe a real explanation about why is deserved."
>>
>>And Earl has responded:
>>
>>
>>>==========
>>>Since my explanation about a week ago I've tried to solve
>>>whatever the difference was when I first got the Orion and
>>>my later A/B tests.
>>>
>>>True, when I first tried it on 160m (which was not an A/B test,
>>>BTW) I was elated by the apparent results.
>>
>>Oh,  well ok,  it sounded as if it were an A/B test, but going back
>>and reading your May 20th post,  I see you did not claim it to
>>be,  fair enough.
>>
>>Earl continues:
>>
>>
>>>I've come to the conclusion that tere are two possibilities:
>>
>>1) As you may or may not know, when I initially received my
>>Orion there was a firmware problem with the preamp ON/OFF.......
>>
>> 2) The other reason might be that something went awry with
>>my Orion.
>>
>>
>>>My Orion is now at the factory undergoing stringent testing.  If they
>>>find something wrong with it and fix it and the radio performs like it
>>>appeared to in my initial test, I told them to cancel the refund and
>>>return the radio to me.  And, in that case, the Orion will be elevated
>>>from its last place position on my list.
>>>
>>>That's where it stands now.
>>
>>Outstanding!!  Just as I suspected the entire time,  hi.  The
>>initial and test boundary conditions were actually unknown
>>during each "test",  and the various,  and much influencing
>>Orion parameter settings were not recorded,  so we have
>>no idea what the threshold was of the AGC used (though
>>Earl has reported that he used the "prog" AGC in his later
>>test).
>>
>>Where "it" stands now, as Earl has reported is exactly the
>>correct place.  All is open to further testing AFTER we know
>>the condition of the test Orion,  AND we have written down,
>>and reported ALL the conditions of the various Orion parameter
>>settings.  This was all required in my engineering notebook
>>when I was at Raytheon,  Zenith Radio,  etc.  in those long,
>>long ago bygone days,  hi.
>>
>>Earl is on the correct path now.  Good for him!
>>
>>Mahalo and 73,  Jim  KH7M
>>
>>
>>
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> 
> Subject:
> [TenTec] Re: K8MN's Orion
> From:
> Peg Haese <haesem@uwplatt.edu>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:45:02 -0500
> To:
> tentec@contesting.com
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> If you've had your Orion for a month-and-a-half, it is a little past 
> Ten-Tec's 30-day return window. Isn't that the exact rig that Earl K6SE 
> tried out and returned? If you haven't been able to move it yet, TT 
> should be able to work out a trade for you, or at least give you scrap 
> value.
> 
> 73 de Peg KB9LIE
> 
>  >I've had the Orion for about a month-and-a-half. It has been my 
> opinion that it has the finest receiver I've ever used.
> 
>  >Now I'm filled with self-doubt. I'm beginning to think I should sell 
> the piece of crap and buy a second-hand FT-757 ;-)
> 
>  >What to do, what to do...
> 
>  >Dave Heil K8MN
> 
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