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Subject: [TenTec] Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 10, Issue 20
From: "John P. Cummins, Sr." <jpcummins@charter.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:21:16 -0400
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I'll take it if it is still available..!!

John Pickett Cummins Sr., AD4S

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Orion group (Joe)
   2. fs: TenTec 21 Digital, needs TLC! With Pictures!
   3. Re: Orion was ( [TenTec] Hercules III / Mark Erbaugh)
       (Mark Erbaugh)
   4. FS: Collector Grade Omni V....K8ML..Mark Leslie (rr1632)
   5. contesting.com now has an Orion list (Barry N1EU)
   6. RE: New group for Orion (RON ZOND)


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Subject:
Re: [TenTec] Orion group
From:
"Joe" <aa4nn@earthlink.net>
Date:
Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:22:12 -0400
To:
<tentec@contesting.com>


Take it easy, Tommy. I'm sure you didn't mean to send everyone the entire digest with your post. Or maybe you did.
de Joe, aa4nn
----- Original Message ----- From: WD4K To: tentec@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Orion group



Those of you who lump "Orion owners" into a generic group ALL wanting their own reflector is simply not accurate and a slap to the face of some of us.From n9dg@yahoo.com Tue Oct 7 10:23:33 2003 Return-Path: <n9dg@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: tentec@contesting.com Delivered-To: tentec@contesting.com Received: from web12603.mail.yahoo.com (web12603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.226]) by dayton.akorn.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 043E331A13C for <tentec@contesting.com>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20031007142332.64056.qmail@web12603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.24.201.155] by web12603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:23:32 PDT Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 07:23:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Duane Grotophorst <n9dg@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Orion was ( [TenTec] Hercules III / Mark Erbaugh) To: tentec@contesting.com In-Reply-To: <001501c38cd6$e0fea2a0$c1b34ace@s0024901093> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=-ascii X-BeenThere: tentec@contesting.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com List-Id: <tentec.contesting.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec>, <mailto:tentec-request@contesting.com?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://dayton.akorn.net/pipermail/tentec> List-Post: <mailto:tentec@contesting.com> List-Help: <mailto:tentec-request@contesting.com?subject=lp> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec>, <mailto:tentec-request@contesting.com?subject=bscribe>


--- Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw@Blomand.Net> wrote:

I see it this way.  Does one want a high performance
radio or a high
performance display?


Why does this always need to be an "OR" proposition?
Why can't we have both together? Reminds me of the
crystal vs. DSP filtering debate, many see that as an
"OR" question as well, but yet the Orion now does
combine both extremely effectively, ... argument over.


In the end, I've never had a
display assist in pulling a
weak signal out of the noise .....


On the contrary I use "fancy" displays to find signals
on the 50-432MHz "weak signal" bands all the time (and
am doing so on all 4 of those bands simultaneously),
and I now find that radios without spectrum display
capabilities to be down right clunky to use. But I'll
generally agree with the sentiment about the
usefulness of displays on the radios themselves. You
simply cannot put enough information on a small 5 Inch
or so display no matter how hard you try, you really
do need a good sized external monitor or 2, or even 3.

Duane
N9DG



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Subject:
[TenTec] fs: TenTec 21 Digital, needs TLC! With Pictures!
From:
RLucch2098@aol.com
Date:
Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:38:21 EDT
To:
tentec@contesting.com


Hi All;
Well I got the "green bananna" at a hamfest:-)
I wanted this Century 21 Digital because I know there are not many around.
The seller told me that it was not used in years & the AC plug was stepped on & pulled off by accident, right!
Well I laid out $80 for it only to find out it needs more then I am capable so maybe someone here can save it from the "bone Yard".
Here is the story:
1)-Panel has a few finger rub marks thru paint around a few knobs.
2)-Need ac plug.
3)-will need new on/off/volume control, I wired the switch wires together so I cud at least turn it on.
4)-output is only a few watts on 80 & 40, nothing on others(?).
5)- Speaker needs replacing, a replacement 2+" speaker supplied(I had a new one laying around)
Good Items>>
1)- receiver seems to work, stations heard, switches, etc. will need cleaning.
2)- cover in vg to exc. condx. a few minor chips in vinyl covering.
3) correct tilt-up bails!
4) meter working.
5)- Digital display & tuning seem fine!
6)- Filters ok.
7)- switches & Buttons other then listed seem ok.
I suspect that someone who is familar with these should make short work of these repairs but I am not a tech & no manual. I'd rather pass it along before I make it worst:-)
Just trying to get my $80 bacK(+shipping)
Pics>>
http://www.myradioroom.com/century21-1.jpg
http://www.myradioroom.com/century21-2.jpg
Tnx & 73...Rich WA2RQY



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Subject:
Re: Orion was ( [TenTec] Hercules III / Mark Erbaugh)
From:
"Mark Erbaugh" <mark@microenh.com>
Date:
Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:55:00 -0400
To:
<tentec@contesting.com>


Duane,


Ethernet would work, but the internal software would have to support an
external interface to get the data. For example, the spectrum scope on the
Jupiter screen is better than anything you can get on an external display.
The problem with displaying the data externally is that if you sweep the
frequency quickly, you get artifacts of the receiver's AGC decaying and you
see a sawtooth pattern. I asked Gary Barbour how they got around that on the
Jupiter and he said that when the Jupiter is sweeping they handle the AGC
differently. That can't be done with software commands.

Mark

----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Grotophorst" <n9dg@yahoo.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Orion was ( [TenTec] Hercules III / Mark Erbaugh)




--- Mark Erbaugh <mark@microenh.com> wrote:

As long as we're dreaming, how about a small
internal monochrome display (as
now), but with a "standard" video connector for an
external color monitor.
The hardware cost for a PC type video adapter would
be minimal. Then folks
could put as much money as they like into an
external montior.

Mark

Yep, and while a color display is nice, and can also be extremely useful, - it just doesn't belong on the radio itself.

And also adding an Ethernet adapter wouldn't even cost
as much as a video adapter would.

Duane
N9DG

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Subject:
[TenTec] FS: Collector Grade Omni V....K8ML..Mark Leslie
From:
"rr1632" <rr1632@dragonbbs.com>
Date:
Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:13:32 -0400
To:
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FS:..Omni V...collector quality...not a dint,
not a ding, not a scratch, even the backside and heatsink are as close to perfect as you will find...works perfectly....2.4 filter only. manual and power cord included..TT box and TT padding....if you ever wanted a Omni V that is
collector quality , here it is...Omni V 's in this good of condition are getting harder and harder to find...so-so ones are everywhere....
$750.00 and I will pay shipping to the lower 48
states....please reply directly to me...tnx & 73



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Subject:
[TenTec] contesting.com now has an Orion list
From:
Barry N1EU <n1eu@yahoo.com>
Date:
Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
To:
tentec@contesting.com


Were the archives of the new contesting.com Orion list intentionally made private? Is there any reason they shouldn't be public?

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU

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Subject:
RE: [TenTec] New group for Orion
From:
"RON ZOND" <K3MIY@CSONLINE.NET>
Date:
Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:50:50 -0400
To:
<tentec@contesting.com>


Jim


right on! I always thought that someone with an ego was severely emotionally
handicapped

ron
K3MIY

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lowman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:56 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New group for Orion


I agree. If you think administering a group with this number of members, this much traffic and a host of opinions is an ego trip, I'd have to say that you really haven't tried it.

I do get a fair number of compliments, and have to deal with the
occasional "situation," but it's a
rewarding experience overall.

73 de Jim - AD6CW


J. D. Beischel wrote:



I don't think it is fair to say the creation of a new Orion group has to do
with someone's ego.  Some folks did not want the other Orion group

cancelled


and liked the separate group.  I think the other Orion moderator felt mob
pressure to cancel the group.  As I recall the old Orion group had over 300
members and I don't think everyone is/was for a single TT group.  As
mentioned before, there has not been a single TT group for sometime.
Interesting that only the Orion group was pressured to shut down.  No one
has tried (and I hope this will not happen) to shut down the other TT

groups


on Yahoo.



Duffy



-------Original Message-------



From: tentec@contesting.com

Date: Monday, October 06, 2003 03:27:14 PM

To: tentec@contesting.com

Subject: Re: [TenTec] New group for Orion



Yes we did. Someone else's wounded ego demands the group be resurrected.

So it goes.



73, ron wn3vaw



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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales" <sales@tentec.com>

To: <n4ari@qsl.net>; <tentec@contesting.com>

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TenTec] New group for Orion





Didn't we just have a Yahoo Orion group deleted last week?



Scott Robbins, W4PA

Amateur Radio Product Manager, Ten-Tec, Inc.



At 06:30 PM 10/5/03 -0400, you wrote:




It's not a reflector but a discussion group. The Yahoo! format works





better for that. It is not like this one which is for all Ten Tec, but





rather just for the Orion. There is a full TenTec group on Yahoo!





already. Joe--- On Sun 10/05, Tom Azlin, N4ZPT &lt; tom@n4zpt.org &gt;





wrote:From: Tom Azlin, N4ZPT [mailto: tom@n4zpt.org]To: n4ari@qsl.net,





tentec@contesting.comDate: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:26:11 -0400Subject: Re:





[TenTec] New group for OrionIf you are going to create a new Orion





reflector, and I do not think this is necessary, why not put it on





contesting.com?73, Tom n4zptOn Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:43:46 -0400 (EDT), Joe





Roth-N4ARI wrote:&gt; There is a new Ten-Tec Orion group on Yahoo! If you





are an Orion (model &gt; 565) user, you'll want to sign up. See &gt;





http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orion565 Joe








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