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1.  The rig is very tolerant of SWR.  I thought I read in one of the earlier 
ads that it could handle 3:1 as is.  Most built in antenna tuners don't do 
much better.  Mine has no power foldback at 3:1.
2. The built in tuner was reported to be a dog.   (slow, loud and no memories)
3.  Many available outboard tuners that do better for less money and can be 
moved from rig to rig.
4.  Who needs a tuner-in-the-rig if you are going into an amp or using an 
outboard tuner with ladder line?
Radio k4ia
Craig "Buck"
Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
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