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Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio
From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:30:59 -0500
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    Tom:

            Then, what is your "bone of contention" if you think that it is
a good radio   Maybe I have lost your issue with the Orion.

            73,


            Bernard, WA4OEJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio


> OK Bernard....'sell your radio' is often suggested, but it does not solve
> the problem(s).
>
> I have never said I do not like the Orion, as it is a good radio. The
'some
> day it will work' is getting to be a stretch after 18 months of ownership.
I
> was pretty much spoiled in 1992 when I purchased an Omni 6 and Titan 425
> amplifier that has numerous thousands of hours of extremely satisfactory
> performance under the conditions that I operate a ham station. That is
> running QRO chasing DX, running in about every CW contest I have time to
> enter, plain ole rag chewing at normal CW speeds, and plain ole rag
chewing
> at high CW speeds, and dabbling in each of the new digital modes as time
> permits.  'Satisfactory performance' really does not do justice to that
set
> up because over those years I purchased both Yaesu and Icom rigs and did
A/B
> testing, with the intention of keeping the radio that best suited me. I
> still have my Omni 6 and Titan 425! I also have had more fun and enjoyment
> with that set up than any other combination of setup's I've ever had in my
> 53 years of operating CW.
>
> And that is why when Ten Tec announced the Orion and the Titan 3
amplifier,
> I had absolutely no qualms about purchasing these new products. I also
> expected these new products to perform equally satisfactory to what I
> previously purchased. And they DO, with the exception of the firmware.
>
> During the 18 months of Orion ownership, I have had only one hardware
> failure, which is darned good for a new production unit. The rest of the
> problems I have had are both solved and generated by the firmware.
>
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio
>
>
> >     Tom:
> >
> >         My post was not intended to be "flip" or "flame" your prior
> > comments.  You are obviously not happy with the radio.  This is a hobby
> and
> > you should have fun with your equipment which obviously you are not.  I
> only
> > see a couple of solutions:
> >
> >             A. Sell the radio and get something that suits you better
(no,
> I
> > don't think that you will get new price for a used radio).
> >
> >         or
> >
> >             B. Call the TenTec service department and resolve your
> problems/
> > issues, one by one, starting at the top of your list.
> >
> >         I have noticed several folks have placed ads for Orions on this
> > reflector (both to buy and sell) with good results.  I'll say it again,
> this
> > is only a hobby.  ENJOY IT!
> >
> >                 73,
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Bernard, WA4OEJ
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio
> >
> >
> > > Great and often repeated reply Bernard. Send me a cashiers check for
> only
> > > $3800.00 and I'll ship the Orion to you. Otherwise your suggestions
are
> > not
> > > helpful.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Tom - W4BQF
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
> > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio
> > >
> > >
> > > >     Tommy:
> > > >
> > > >         When was the last time that you bought a HF rig that met all
> the
> > > > stated specs?  I strongly suspect that the REAL answer is never.
> > However,
> > > > for your personal operating pleasure, the specs that were not met
were
> > > most
> > > > probably transparent to you.
> > > >
> > > >         If you are so unhappy with the Orion, I would suggest that
you
> > > sell
> > > > it and move on.  After all, this is a hobby where you should get
> > enjoyment
> > > > from your operation.
> > > >
> > > >         Just one man's opinion.
> > > >
> > > >             73,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >             Bernard, WA4OEJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> > > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:35 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > OK Toby,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is not personal. But I guess I can't understand or accept the
> > terms
> > > > > 'hopefully' - 'is getting better' - 'committed to making'. I'm
not
> > > > wealthy,
> > > > > therefore when I buy into the marketing of a product and pay my
very
> > > hard
> > > > > earned nickles to purchase that product, I rightfully have the
> > > expectation
> > > > > that the product will perform when I purchase it and not 'in
> > > time,...they
> > > > > will reach their goal'.
> > > > >
> > > > > The subject irritates me to where I'm trying extremely hard to not
> > > discuss
> > > > > it publically any longer. Sometimes that does not work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom - W4BQF
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Toby Pennington" <toby423@earthlink.net>
> > > > > To: "Ten Tec List" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:25 PM
> > > > > Subject: [TenTec] rcvr/no audio
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tommy,
> > > > >
> > > > >  I agree there are some issues left to be fixed,  but I operate my
> > Orion
> > > > > every day on SSB and CW with no problems in everyday operation.  I
> > also
> > > > > agree that the Orion is getting better with each update,  and
> > hopefully
> > > > the
> > > > > rig will be great for every kind of operating that any ham would
> > desire
> > > to
> > > > > engage in.
> > > > >
> > > > > It would have been wonderful if the Orion had been released with
> > > > everything
> > > > > perfect about 18 months ago. However, it is getting better with
each
> > > > update,
> > > > > and I hope eventually your Orion will work the way you would like
it
> > to.
> > > > For
> > > > > my style of operating, the Orion is already working just fine.   I
> > have
> > > no
> > > > > complaints at this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe Ten- Tec is committed to making this rig the best it can
> > > > > be......and in time, I think they will reach their goal!
> > > > >
> > > > > Toby W4CAK
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