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RE: [TenTec] Orions SO2R in CQ WW RTTY

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Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orions SO2R in CQ WW RTTY
From: "George Skoubis" <george.skoubis@verizon.net>
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:36:01 -0500
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Sorry, I was behind on reading my email and see this has been answered a
few times already....

73,

George / KF9YR

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of George Skoubis
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:26 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orions SO2R in CQ WW RTTY

Hi,

  Try this and see if it works on both of your Orions with Writelog as
it works with mine...

  Set your mode to FSK on the main RX and VFO A and your bandwidth to
250hz.  Press the mode button and choose USB. Now press mode and choose
FSK.  Your default FSK BW should now be 250hz if you open Writelog, put
a few spots on the bandmap and try it out...

  Let me know if this doesn't work for either of you as it seems to work
here.

  It seems to work the same for each mode so I think you can set the
default bandwidth for each mode this way.

  I had spent about 45 minutes testing the operation of Writelog and BW
documenting the changes to the rig when clicking on the bandmap for an
email I was going to send to W5XD requesting an ini setting for default
BW for each mode in Writelog.  While changing modes to see if the BW
change was mode dependent (I tried 20 meter USB) I noticed the FSK
default bandwidth had changed when I switched back to FSK and Writelog.

  This is probably a documented feature but I didn't dig the manual out.

  Congratulations on the great CQ WW RTTY score Bob (and thanks for the
mult!).

73 de George / KF9YR

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl Moreschi
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:40 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orions SO2R in CQ WW RTTY

Bob,

When the mode changes on the Orion, the filter command must be resent
from
the serial port.  This was explained to me by Gary Barbour.  If this is
not
done, a default filter for that mode is selected instead.  I have never
figured out where this default filter gets its value.  The bottom line
is WL
needs to resend the filter setting to the Orion after the mode changes.
This will cure the problem you describe.

73,

Carl Moreschi N4PY
Franklinton, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 4:16 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Orions SO2R in CQ WW RTTY


> I used my Orions SO2R in the WW RTTY this weekend, so I decided to
share
how
> they performed.
>
> Firstly, both radios were on for the full 48 hours of the event and
for a
> couple of hours before.  I operated the full contest without having to
do
> any kind of reset at all on either radio.  For me this was
unsurprising,
as
> the only time I do a master reset is when I download new firmware.
Then,
I
> do it as a matter of course.
>
> Overall, I would say they performed superbly.  One particular thing I
> noticed with Orions, which replaced my two FT1kMPs, is that they are
better
> suited to SO2R in the kind of setup I use.  What does that mean? Well,
I
> have a rather limited station here.  No multiple towers or anything
like
> that.  In fact, just one modest crankup with a Force 12 C31XR and a
> Cushcraft XM240.  If you're interested you can see my set up at
> www.5b4agn.net.  This is a new website and my first attempt at it, so
please
> excuse it being a little bit raw & obviously unfinished!
>
> The C31XR driven elements for 20/15/10 metres, which are only a matter
of
> inches apart, are fed with three seperate feeders.  I operate high
power
> SO2R using these interlaced yagis.  With driven elements so close
together
> you can imagine the rf field presented to the second radio rx is
really
> nasty.  Of course, I use band pass filters and stubs to minimise the
> problems this causes.  BUT with my two Ft1kMPs I could always feel a
> presence on my second radio when transmitting on the first.  What do I
mean
> by a presence?  Well, modulation of the noise floor I guess.  I also
found
> that listening on say 20m, within about 10kHz of my 40m second
harmonic
was
> a bit messy.  What I found with Orions this weekend was that I had no
sense
> of a presence on the second radio when transmitting on the first.  Not
only
> that but I found myself to have been working about 1 kHz away from the
> second harmonic of my 40m signal on 20m without even realising it.  In
my
> view, this experience speaks volumes for Orion's bomb proof front end
and
> very low phase noise.
>
> I have only two critiscisms to level at Orion after this weekend of
RTTY
use
> and one of those I suspect may be down to operator error though I'm
unsure.
>
> 1.  My contesting software is Writelog. I ran both Orions set at 250
Hz
b/w
> most of the weekend. Whilst tuning around the bands looking for mults
etc
I
> band map wanted stations which don't answer me after a couple of
calls.  I
> then periodically return to their band mappped frequency to see if
their
> pile up has subsided.  The problem I found is this:  Every time I
clicked
> back to a mapped frequency the rx b/w changed.  If I had only one
Orion
then
> I would probably be thinking this was a logging software problem but I
> don't, I have two and although the bandwidth changes on both it's not
to
the
> same setting.  On one radio it always goes to a barn door 1 kHz but on
the
> other it always goes to 300 Hz which isn't so bad.  Though, I'd much
rather
> it stayed at 250 Hz  where I'd set it.
>
> What determines the b/w set when frequency is changed via the RS232
port?
> Why is it 1kHz on one Orion and 300 Hz on the other?  Anyone know the
answer
> to this mystery?  Should I just RTFM?
>
> 2.  Filter shape factor is really the only significant concern I had
over
> the weekend.  With b/w down at around 250 Hz the DSP shape factor is
not
far
> short of 3:1 which really isn't good enough.  As a consequence, folks
could
> sidle up real close to Orion's beautifully clean signal and sit there
inside
> my passband causing me grief.  I spent way too much time over the
weekend
> inching up or down in frequency to avoid QRM from folks alongside.
This
> leads me to the following conclusion:
>
> FOR TOP NOTCH CONTEST GRADE RTTY USE, ORION'S DSP NEEDS TIGHTER
SKIRTS.
>
> Incidentally, FWIW the weekend was a lot of fun.  I put in 36 hours
and
> finished with he following tally:
>
> QSO: 2582;  Points: 7550; State/Prov: 100; Countries: 271; Zones: 94
for a
> total score of 3,510,750
>
> I was placed 4th last year in SOAB (HP).  This year my Q's are up by
almost
> 11% but mults are way down and as a consequence so is my claimed score
which
> is about  5% short.  Things get tough when 10 metres dies!  Hopefully,
just
> as tough for everyone.  We'll see when the results come out.
>
> 73, Bob
>
> Bob Henderson, 5B4AGN, P3F
> Giolou, Pafos, Cyprus
> Email: bob@cytanet.com.cy
> http://www.5b4agn.net
>
>
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