| Kip, 
 I sold my K-1 and kept my Argosy II-D.  Never been sorry for it.
 
 -W4SK
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kip Williams N6NVP" <n6nvp@cox.net>
 To: <tentec@contesting.com>
 Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:23 PM
 Subject: [TenTec] ARGOSY II as a 'new' QRP rig
 
 
 
 I'm trying to decide between an Elecraft K-1 and an Argosy II 525D. (I 
thinkI've got the model number right on that?) The Argosy has the #220 2.4 khz
 crystal, the #217 500 hz crystal, the #224 audio cw filter and a noise
 blanker installed. All that for $275.00, which seems like a fair price to
 me.
 
 I currently operate QRP cw only (with a filter-less Yaesu FT-7) and am
 looking for a radio that will: 1.)Keep me happy on QRP ops, 2.) provide a
 selective, sensitive receiver and 3.)stay with me as I gain skill. (I plan
 to start chasing QRP DX.) My budget is very limited and I'm hoping to 
stick
 with the radio I choose for longer than a couple of months.
 
 I've had a fascination and respect for the Ten Tec rigs since being 
licensed
 in 1980 - but have never owned one. Their sound on the air is always
 distinct and a pleasure to work. Their owners are always devoted.
 
 Does anyone here have experience with the Argosy and the Elecraft K1 so 
they
 could make a comparison? I know we're talking a hundred bucks or more
 difference, but what beyond that am I missing? Am I comparing apples to
 oranges? Am I asking too much of a 20+ year old radio if I want it to 
stack
 up against one designed in the past 4 years? Any comments or suggestions
 would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks everybody and happy holidays.
 
 Kip N6NVP
 
 
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    1. Decision Made (KD7EFQ@aol.com)
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 Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:52:59 EST
From: KD7EFQ@aol.com
Subject: [TenTec] Decision Made
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <159.47201ea9.2efee6db@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ouote:
 
 
 "I guess you're mostly a phone operator, otherwise you would surely have
experienced arbitrary truncation of character elements with your TS570.
Mine went back to Kenwood for a firmware update to improve the situation
though alas not to cure it.  It would certainly have been nice if I could
have downloaded that update from the web and nicer still if Kenwood cured
the problem altogether!" Happy Christmas.
 
 Bob, 5B4AGN
 
 
 You're absolutely right, I'm a SSB op. I studied CW enough to get my 13
WPM
for General, as it was a necessary evil then. Once I passsed the test,
well,
the key sits on my desk for decoration. I just never got bit by the CW
 rigs,Why
work so hard when you can just hit the PTT button and say what you mean.
No
insult to CW ops intended. it's just not my cup o' tea. Happy Holidays to
you
as well. 
 73, Todd - KT0DD - kd7efq@aol.com
"The race is over...THE RATS WON !"
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:57:01 -0500
From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ts570?
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <004e01c4ea9a$5f411360$6401a8c0@Steve>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original 
 Didn't Fix that problem with the 570DG version?
Steve N4LQ
----- Original Message -----
From: <KD7EFQ@aol.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:52 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Decision Made 
 > Ouote:
 >
 > "I guess you're mostly a phone operator, otherwise you would surely 
> have
 > experienced arbitrary truncation of character elements with your TS570.
 > Mine went back to Kenwood for a firmware update to improve the 
> situation
 > though alas not to cure it.  It would certainly have been nice if I
 could
 > have downloaded that update from the web and nicer still if Kenwood
 cured
 > the problem altogether!"
 >
 > Happy Christmas.
 >
 > Bob, 5B4AGN
 >
 >
 > You're absolutely right, I'm a SSB op. I studied CW enough to get my 13
 > WPM
 > for General, as it was a necessary evil then. Once I passsed the test,
 > well,
 > the key sits on my desk for decoration. I just never got bit by the CW
 > bug. Why
 > work so hard when you can just hit the PTT button and say what you 
> mean.
 > No
 > insult to CW ops intended. it's just not my cup o' tea. Happy Holidays
 to
 > you
 > as well.
 >
 >
 > 73, Todd - KT0DD - kd7efq@aol.com
 > "The race is over...THE RATS WON !"
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 ------------------------------
 
 
 Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:08:35 -0500
From: <llewis172@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
To: <eric.sensi@skynet.be>, <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c4ea9b$fd3117e0$6400a8c0@lenzy2400>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original How do you unsubscribe... would like to do the same
 
 Thanks
 
 
 Lenzy, N8bad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric SENSI" <eric.sensi@skynet.be>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:57 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Good news... 
 > Good news Gentlemen...
>
> As a 2005 new year's resolution :
>
> - I will unsubscribe from this reflector (this must be a very good
> announcement for the reflector !) :-)
>
> By the way, I will not post any messages here regarding my experience
with
> those 2 Orion's.
>
> I just wanted to conclude by these points :
>
> - The Orion is a wonderful dream machine and it'll stay a dream for me;
> - I NEVER said that the Orion is a garbage, I just said it needs some
> improvements for the "average" operator like me;
> - I NEVER said that my environment is perfect nor free of RF, my radio
> shack
> needs improvement too and I'm working on it;
> - I NEVER said that my new Mark V is better than any of your Tentec
 > the Mark V is just more "compatible" with my working conditions andthat's
 > all;
 > - I NEVER said that there will be no Tentec radios in the shack in the
 > next
 > few months/years (dreaming of an OmniVI+);
 > - If I had enough money, I'll certainly have the Orion AND the Mark V
 side
 > by side just for extreme fun;
 > - I consider the Orion as a laboratory experimental device that could 
> be
 > fun
 > to play with;
 > - I consider the Mark V a good radio that's working out from the box
 with
 > minimal investment in time, as I'm a poor ham radio operator, this Mark
 V
 > is
 > the perfect match for my operating style.
 > - The Orion is perfect for great experimentations, the Mark V is 
> perfect
 > when you just wanna push the PTT switch.
 >
 > Merry xmas again to all, have fun with your TT rigs and don't forget
 your
 > families too ! The most important thing maybe.
 >
 > Eric, ON6CV
 >
 > ... -.-
 >
 > _______________________________________________
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 Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:12:34 -0500
From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <005d01c4ea9c$8b5667f0$6401a8c0@Steve>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response 
 Look down at the bottom of any email from the list, click on the link and
follow the instructions. 
 Steve N4LQ
----- Original Message -----
From: <llewis172@comcast.net>
To: <eric.sensi@skynet.be>; <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news... 
 > How do you unsubscribe... would like to do the same
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > Lenzy, N8bad
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Eric SENSI" <eric.sensi@skynet.be>
 > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
 > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:57 AM
 > Subject: [TenTec] Good news...
 >
 >
 >> Good news Gentlemen...
 >>
 >> As a 2005 new year's resolution :
 >>
 >> - I will unsubscribe from this reflector (this must be a very good
 >> announcement for the reflector !) :-)
 >>
 >> By the way, I will not post any messages here regarding my experience
 >> with
 >> those 2 Orion's.
 >>
 >> I just wanted to conclude by these points :
 >>
 >> - The Orion is a wonderful dream machine and it'll stay a dream for 
>> me;
 >> - I NEVER said that the Orion is a garbage, I just said it needs some
 >> improvements for the "average" operator like me;
 >> - I NEVER said that my environment is perfect nor free of RF, my radio
 >> shack
 >> needs improvement too and I'm working on it;
 >> - I NEVER said that my new Mark V is better than any of your Tentec
 rigs,
 >> the Mark V is just more "compatible" with my working conditions and
 >> that's
 >> all;
 >> - I NEVER said that there will be no Tentec radios in the shack in the
 >> next
 >> few months/years (dreaming of an OmniVI+);
 >> - If I had enough money, I'll certainly have the Orion AND the Mark V
 >> side
 >> by side just for extreme fun;
 >> - I consider the Orion as a laboratory experimental device that could
 be
 >> fun
 >> to play with;
 >> - I consider the Mark V a good radio that's working out from the box
 with
 >> minimal investment in time, as I'm a poor ham radio operator, this 
>> Mark
 V
 >> is
 >> the perfect match for my operating style.
 >> - The Orion is perfect for great experimentations, the Mark V is
 perfect
 >> when you just wanna push the PTT switch.
 >>
 >> Merry xmas again to all, have fun with your TT rigs and don't forget
 your
 >> families too ! The most important thing maybe.
 >>
 >> Eric, ON6CV
 >>
 >> ... -.-
 >>
 >> _______________________________________________
 >> TenTec mailing list
 >> TenTec@contesting.com
 >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
 >>
 >
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > TenTec mailing list
 > TenTec@contesting.com
 > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
 >
 
 
 
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