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> 1. RE: Orion amp line delay/advance (NJ0IP)
> 2. Re: Help--Dead Corsair II (Rick Weaver)
> 3. Re: Computer control of Paragon with Giehl Chip (Jerry Volpe)
> 4. keying loops (w9ge)
> 5. RE: keying loops (Grant Youngman)
> 6. Re: keying loops (Carl Moreschi)
> 7. RE: keying loops (Grant Youngman)
> 8. Re: keying loops (w9ge)
> 9. AGC phone settings (Jeff Griffin)
> 10. Re: keying loops (W9MWS@aol.com)
> 11. Re: keying loops (Tommy)
> 12. Re: keying loops (Gary Tuck)
> 13. RE: Re: keying loops (Grant Youngman)
> 14. Argosy Power Supply (D. Kemp)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:00:37 -0800
> From: "NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orion amp line delay/advance
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Carl just answered it. It is a fixed parameter.
>
> The option I described is the dropout delay.
> (sorry - I misunderstood you Buck)
>
> 73
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of K4IA@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:56 AM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion amp line delay/advance
>
> Rick
>
> I think I am talking about a different issue. As I understand the TX menu,
>
> you are adjusting how long the amp stays keyed after the transmission stops
>
> -- the "hang time" it is called in the manual.
>
> What I am wondering is what is the advance/delay on the start in this
> sequence:
>
> key down -> amp keys -> radio transmits.
>
> And is it adjustable or adequate for a amp in the factory default.
>
> Radio k4ia
> "Buck"
> Fredericksburg, VA USA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:07:38 -0500
> From: "Rick Weaver" <weave2@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Help--Dead Corsair II
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
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>
> Regarding the fuse, do a double check on the replacement, I believe it
> should be a slow blow type. Remember same happening to my CII.
> Rick K8RLW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
> To: <wb2vuf@qsl.net>; <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Help--Dead Corsair II
>
> > You should examine the fuse when you remove it, and if it is blown
> > catastrophically (black inside, etc.) there is a good chance you have a
> > shorted final transistor. In any event, you need to check the resistance
> on
> > the output side of the fuse to determine if there is a short.
> >
> > Phil K4DPK
> > http://home.comcast.net/~k4dpk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bwana Bob" <wb2vuf@qsl.net>
> > To: <dock0evz@earthlink.net>; <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Help--Dead Corsair II
> >
> >
> > > Doc:
> > >
> > > Yes, according to my Corsair manual, the fuse is located on the bottom
> > > of the radio, inside the final amplifier compartment. Sometimes fuses
> > > just blow from old age.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Bob WB2VUF
> > >
> > > W.D. (Doc) Lindsey wrote:
> > > > Good Evening:
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks to scads of guys who have written. The consensus is that
> > there
> > > > is a fuse in the B+, somewhere near the back inside the rig. Have not
> > had
> > > > a chance to check it yet, but I will report what I find. Thanks
> again,
> > one
> > > > and all.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > --Doc/K0EVZ
> > > >
> > > > --- W.D. (Doc) Lindsey
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:06:17 -0800
> From: Jerry Volpe <kg6tt@tomorrowsweb.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Computer control of Paragon with Giehl Chip
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> Vic:
>
> Even though I haven't found an RS-232 board yet, I am looking. So I
> would greatly appreciate seeing your code. I am looking forward to the
> day that my Paragon can talk to my logging program and DX spotter.
>
> 73,
> Jerald, KG6TT
>
> Vic Klein wrote:
>
> >After finally finding an RS-232 board for my 585 Paragon with a Giehl
> >upgrade, I set out to modify the original BASIC program that allows computer
> >control of the radio. After some fiddling for the several differences in
> >this chip vs. the original Ten Tec ROM, it is up and running well (at least
> >as far as I have tested). I am using a late model 585 with a Giehl 6.0 ROM,
> >so that is all I can say for sure it works on, but it allows memory read and
> >store, frequency and mode control, etc. as the original did. The interface
> >is no more glamorous than the original program (not very), and I may work on
> >that later. The first job was to get everything working, of course.
> >
> >I have the source program and a compiled, ready-to-run .exe version
> >available if anyone else needs it. Just drop me an email.
> >
> >=Vic=
> >WA4THR
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:32:07 -0500
> From: "w9ge" <finger@goeaston.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
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>
> Grant and all: Not sure that I am the originator but my suggestion back
> channel to Tommy was that I had a similar amp keying problem and found that
> both keying loops had to be set the same for anything to work properly. One
> set on ptt and one on qsk loop did not function reliably. (I use two amps
> and both RF connectors). Ten Tec did verify the anomoly and added it to the
> "to be fixed" list in I think February 2004. I am not certain if it has been
> fixed or not....
>
> If my back channel to Tommy is what he is referring to, I plead guilty. 73
> and Happy New Year bob de w9ge
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:52:33 -0600
> From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
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>
> Well, that's certainly interesting. And thanks (to everyone) for the info.
>
> It always seemed like either (1) the amp would for some reason stop
> responding with TxEN or (2) the Orion was either missing the handshake or
> getting thoroughly cumboozled and ignoring it -- thus wouldn't go into
> transmit. Sounds like the latter, but it's curious that enabling the 2nd
> loop (even without anything connected apparently) may solve the problem.
>
> If that is a solution, hopefully it will lead T-T down the path to diagnose
> and fix whatever conditions are cause things to misbehave in the first
> place.
>
> Curiouser and curiouser .. :-)
>
> Grant/NQ5T
>
> > Grant and all: Not sure that I am the originator but my
> > suggestion back channel to Tommy was that I had a similar amp
> > keying problem and found that both keying loops had to be set
> > the same for anything to work properly.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:56:39 -0500
> From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <009001c4ec45$cd2d1980$3d0d45cf@oemcomputer>
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>
> I have always run my Orion with keying loop 1 on and keying loop 2 off. I
> do not have anything hooked up to keying loop 2. I have not experienced the
> keying loop problem with my Orion and ACOM 1000.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> Franklinton, NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 1:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] keying loops
>
> > Well, that's certainly interesting. And thanks (to everyone) for the
> info.
> >
> > It always seemed like either (1) the amp would for some reason stop
> > responding with TxEN or (2) the Orion was either missing the handshake or
> > getting thoroughly cumboozled and ignoring it -- thus wouldn't go into
> > transmit. Sounds like the latter, but it's curious that enabling the 2nd
> > loop (even without anything connected apparently) may solve the problem.
> >
> > If that is a solution, hopefully it will lead T-T down the path to
> diagnose
> > and fix whatever conditions are cause things to misbehave in the first
> > place.
> >
> > Curiouser and curiouser .. :-)
> >
> > Grant/NQ5T
> >
> >
> > > Grant and all: Not sure that I am the originator but my
> > > suggestion back channel to Tommy was that I had a similar amp
> > > keying problem and found that both keying loops had to be set
> > > the same for anything to work properly.
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:02:21 -0600
> From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20041227190229.C35AE31967E@dayton.akorn.net>
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>
> > I have always run my Orion with keying loop 1 on and keying
> > loop 2 off. I do not have anything hooked up to keying loop
> > 2. I have not experienced the keying loop problem with my
> > Orion and ACOM 1000.
>
> Neither have I, nor have a lot of others apparently. But if this somehow
> solves the problem that some have been experiencing, I'm all for it! :-)
> And if it does, it sure would be interesting to know why ...
>
> Grant/NQ5T
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:28:32 -0500
> From: "w9ge" <finger@goeaston.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] Re: keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <079601c4ec4a$43740af0$0200a8c0@BOB>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> Perhaps I had better explain things a bit more. I had a series of problems
> in Jan/Feb of 2004 with my Orion. Both of my amps had to be configured with
> PTT for them to work. Then things got progressively worse. Ten Tec was able
> to duplicate my problem in the lab, and consequently they added the "bug" to
> their firmware updates list. To complicate things, I had a progressively
> failing board in my Orion at the same time, which Ten Tec replaced under
> warranty in Mar 2004. It was the CPU/DSP board for those interested.
> Symptoms were that the Orion would lose output while keying in cw, noticeable
> on the scope and wattmeter but not on the alc light which flickered just like
> always. Since the repair I have left both amps set for "ptt" rather than use
> the keying loops.
>
> In talking with Tommy recently, I told him of my past anomoly. Today I
> reconfigured my Ten Tec Titan 425 for qsk on loop 2 and left my Alpha 78
> hooked up as a "ptt" configuration. Initial testing reveals that everything
> seems to work as it should on both amps. The 425 output looks just fine on
> the scope. This is with 1.372 loaded. I will retain this configuration and
> tolerate the clacking vacuum relay for a while to see if it continues to
> function as it should. ( I only use the 425 on the WARC bands, and then
> rarely, except during contests so it may not get much of a workout for a
> while)
>
> I cannot explain Carls experience, except to say I never tried my Orion with
> only a single amp connected. Perhaps those who experience a similar problem
> as mine should suspect the CPU/DSP board? I sure hope not! By the way my
> Orion is a latter 2003 model. 73 and happy new year bob de w9ge
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:43:45 -0500
> From: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@comcast.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] AGC phone settings
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000401c4ec4c$61789aa0$6601a8c0@SERVER>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I've been enjoying my Orion while on vacation over the holidays. I travel
> alot for work and don't always find the time to explore it full potential.
> Last few days I managed to work the VU4 on 20m, and Japan on 80m, both new
> one's for me. These sigs were unheard until I adjusted the AGC settings.
> I'm using the doc that Scott and Doug wrote as a guide....
>
> www.tentec.com/565optimize.htm
>
> Now my question, is there any data available on optimizing the AGC settings
> for phone? Noisy or quiet band? I remember seeing some info on phone setup ,
> but don't recall where it was. I've had my Orion for almost 2 years now, and
> am very pleased with it's performance...
>
> Everyone have a happy and prosperous New Year....
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:54:38 EST
> From: W9MWS@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] keying loops
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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>
>
> In a message dated 12/27/2004 1:57:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> n4py@earthlink.net writes:
>
> I have always run my Orion with keying loop 1 on and keying loop 2 off. I
> do not have anything hooked up to keying loop 2. I have not experienced the
> keying loop problem with my Orion and ACOM 1000.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> Franklinton, NC
>
> My keying loop set up is the same as Carl's but pushing an Alpha 87A. No
> problems to date.
>
> Mike Stover W9MWS
> Fort Wayne, IN
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:53:53 -0500
> From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <003f01c4ec56$2d405570$6401a8c0@w4bqf3>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Grant,
>
> I have been touching base with Carl about this for a long time. It
> is very strange that his and others, using an ACOM normally do not
> have this problem when using the Orion. Some other's have told me
> that with non-Ten Tec amps, the problem does not exist. The whole
> thing is just strange. For instance, I ran my Titan 3 with my Omni
> 6, Omni 6 Plus, and my Icom IC-781 and never once had this problem.
> If we guess about this, I think you would just have to look at the
> Ten Tec amplifier face and the Orion interface do have some
> conflicts. One other interesting thread is as Bob says, he had his
> CPU/DSP board replaced in his Orion, mine was also replaced by TT at
> one time.
>
> At any rate, some progress is finally being made, thanks to W9GE
> letting me know what he experienced back in the early part of the
> year!!
>
> 73,
>
> Tom - W4BQF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] keying loops
>
> >> I have always run my Orion with keying loop 1 on and keying
> >> loop 2 off. I do not have anything hooked up to keying loop
> >> 2. I have not experienced the keying loop problem with my
> >> Orion and ACOM 1000.
> >
> > Neither have I, nor have a lot of others apparently. But if this
> > somehow
> > solves the problem that some have been experiencing, I'm all for
> > it! :-)
> > And if it does, it sure would be interesting to know why ...
> >
> > Grant/NQ5T
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:20:47 -0800
> From: Gary Tuck <gtuck@mac.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Re: keying loops
> To: Ten Tec Mailing List <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <2CD2760E-584D-11D9-829D-000393D1DAD8@mac.com>
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>
> After Tom and I compared notes off line, I've been trying W9GE's
> suggestion for the last couple of days and haven't lost transmit yet.
> I'm using a Centaur.
>
> Gary W7TEA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:25:34 -0600
> From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] Re: keying loops
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20041227212546.2B875319E6E@dayton.akorn.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> And your just turning on the 2nd loop? Not tieing the two TXEN lines
> together or anything?
>
> Grant/NQ5T
>
> > ...I've been trying
> > W9GE's suggestion for the last couple of days and haven't
> > lost transmit yet.
> > I'm using a Centaur.
> >
> > Gary W7TEA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:31:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: "D. Kemp" <nn8b@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Argosy Power Supply
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20041227213111.1389.qmail@web50701.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I recently bought an Argosy power supply from Ten
> Tec's used item inventory. Get their current list to
> check if one is available.
>
> Up until the power supply addition I used the DC
> circuit breaker from Ten Tec.
>
> The power supply or the circuit breaker is a must have
> for safe operation.
>
> Don NN8B
>
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