Interesting remarks about the the transition from copying
letters to words in your head. I first noticed the "word
copying" affect, or at least partial words, at around 18-20
WPM. The common letter sequences like 'the', 'ing', 'tion',
'ed', and some other common "bridge" words just started to
just "stand out" from the flow of letters. I have also found
that I can copy with roughly the same accuracy (or lack
thereof) for speeds from 20-35 WPM, I consistently trip up on
the same letters and/or uncommon words across that entire
speed range. I simply don't do CW often enough to be truly
good at it.
Knowing what I know now I wish I would have started to learn
CW at a minimum 25-30 WPM speed from the get go so I could
have avoided that whole letter by letter copying mess.
Duane
N9DG
--- Carl Moreschi <n4py@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Tommy,
>
> Thanks for the excellent explanation of high speed CW
> operation and what QSK
> really means at those speeds. My CW maxes out at around 35
> wpm. You gave
> me a lot of insight on really high speed copying. I assume
> at some speed to
> start to hear words and not even individual letters
> anymore.
>
> 73,
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> Franklinton, NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> To: <msembx-aa6e@yahoo.com>; <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] My Orion - qsk
>
>
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Please keep in mind, this is just my opinion and only how
> I operate,
> > and probably does not follow what one would consider
> 'classic QSK',
> > if there is such a thing. So, how I precieve full QSK is
> not very
> > easy to explain, nor is it a concise definition because
> of the
> > variables involved.
> >
> > Let me preface this by saying that copying CW at
> different speeds is
> > done by different methods, all sub-consiciously. Below
> about 45-50
> > wpm, the brain is still copying individual letters of
> words. Roughly
> > between 50 and 60 wpm, the brain seems to 'jump track'
> and switches
> > to copying words and not letters. From about 50 wpm and
> on up, you
> > begin to really focus on what I call the 'flow of the
> conversation'.
> > Below about 50 wpm, you can send/copy CW while at the
> same time sip
> > coffee, eat cookies, gaze out the window, etc.; above 50
> wpm you
> > really become more (or extremely) focused on copying CW.
> Above 60
> > wpm, you become extremely focused on copying/sending the
> code and
> > can not tolerate very many distractions. The other part
> of this is
> > how your sending. Since I use a computer program (YPlog
> by VE6YP) to
> > send code at high speed, I am normally typing quite a bit
> into the
> > program buffer of the PC program. So how I precieve QSK
> is dependant
> > a lot on what speed I'm operating.
> >
> > When I'm operating typically below 35 wpm, with my Orion,
> IC-781, or
> > Omni 6 (and Plus), I can hear someone breaking me in
> between
> > letters. Over about 50 wpm, I can hear someone breaking
> me, but then
> > it's more than likely in between words, keeping in mind
> that over
> > about 50 wpm, one is no longer conscious of literally
> 'hearing'
> > letters. However, when my QRQ partners literally test a
> radio for
> > it's QSK ability, we typically run up around 70 or 80 wpm
> and the
> > 'listening' station starts trying to break you by first
> sending one
> > dot, if that doesn't work, he sends several dots, or what
> ever it
> > takes to for me to hear him. It normally does not take
> more than two
> > or three dots for me to be aware that my QSO partner is
> trying to
> > break me. So in essence, to me, full QSK becomes a
> 'fuzzy'
> > definition, depending on your speed and your operating
> environment.
> >
> > Again, to me only, full QSK is not whether or not I can
> hear someone
> > breaking me 'between the dits', it is simply can I hear
> someone
> > breaking me, no matter what speed I am operating. So
> being about to
> > hear someone break you 'in between dits', at speeds over
> about 40
> > wpm, becomes moot simply because one is no longer
> conscious of
> > 'hearing' a letter, much less hearing between dits.
> >
> > Tom - W4BQF
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin AA6E" <msembx-aa6e@yahoo.com>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] My Orion - qsk
> >
> >
> > > Tommy,
> > >
> > > We've gone around on this issue before, but could you
> explain what
> > > you
> > > mean by "full QSK" at 70+ wpm? Can you hear between
> the dits?
> > > Can you
> > > hear between letters? between words? Etc.
> > >
> > > Let's not get into another big flamefest. I am just
> curious what
> > > you
> > > mean by full QSK.
> > >
> > > 73, Martin AA6E
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Tommy <aldermant@alltel.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > .. Now with v1.372 and with v1.373b5, I have
> > >> successfully ran my Orion up as high as 74 wpm, full
> QSK, without
> > >> the dots shortening. My critical QSO partners say the
> Orion is
> > >> now
> > >> perfectly copyable at 74 wpm. When I move to 76 wpm,
> the dots
> > >> start
> > >> shortening again. However I think this is a fantastic
> improvement
> > >> and certainly would not ask any more from the Orion.
> FYI...if you
> > >> run CW over about 50 wpm, you must drop Tr down to the
> 3ms
> > >> position
> > >> (which is actually a Tr of 1ms, the exact same as the
> Omni 6 and
> > >> Omni 6 Plus).
> > >>
> > >> Absolutely great improvement on the CW full QSK
> capability of the
> > >> Orion!!
> > >>
> > >> Tom - W4BQF"
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