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Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]

To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:07:09 -0500
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Well, you can start with W5YI and the others who backed "No Code
International."  They've been pushing for this for what, 15 years now at
least?

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of AD5VJ Bob
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]


That brings up a good point. Some entity somewhere had to "push" through the
no code. I don't think this was just an idea someone at
the FCC office had in a dream one night and spent the governments money to
fulfill it.

So that being said, I for one would sincerely like to know, what was the
argument that won and what was the strength of the
argument?

  73 fer nw es gud DX,
QSL VIA: BUR, LotW, e-QSL
Bob AD5VJ(AAR6VM)
Old calls: WY5L/KH3-KE5CTY-N5IET
http://www.ad5vj.com/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of n4dsp
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:41 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]
>
> WA3MKB,
> Nice post and but I have to disagree with you on one point.
> You state that the amateur radio operators who failed to
> write the FCC unintentionally allowed the removal of the
> requirement of Morse Code from all license class examinations
> is inaccurate. The truth of the matter is the FCC had an
> agenda and no matter if 99% of operators expressed their
> opinion of retaining the Morse Code requirement it would not
> have mattered. Look at the route other countries throughout
> the world have gone. One does not have to look past
> Washington to see the lack of leadership in these matters.
> Case in point-BPL.
> Also it is my opinion, and please note the word opinion, that
> within 20 years there will be no examinations whatsoever.
> Just pay your 20 dollars with your completed application. If
> these guys can push through no code then it makes everything
> else much easier. Just look at the VEC examinations and how
> much of a joke they are. A person can memorize the answers in
> 3 weeks and pass the Extra test with flying colors. I know
> people who have done it but that will also be a bygone era.
>
> 73
> john-n4dsp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <d.e.warnick@comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]
>
>
> > Thank you KC4ATU. You have echoed the feelings of
> thousands. Every amateur
> > operator who did not want to see the code dropped, but who
> did not write
> > the FCC, at the urging of a very hard working ARRL, has
> unintentionally
> > allowed this to happen. We could not have changed it
> anyway, but our
> > voices should have been heard.
> > So what can we do now? Continue to operate CW as we have in
> the past.
> > Enjoy it and show the world that it is still a viable force in our
> > communications.
> > That's it. Let's focus our energies in the positive side of
> things. The
> > ARRL has done a heck of a lot to keep us informed of what
> is happening and
> > to enable us to operate at all
> >
> > WA3MKB
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "bill rowlett" <c4atu@hotmail.com>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: "AD5VJ Bob"
> >> >
> >> > So tell me something:
> >> >
> >> >I am a member of many many lists on Yahoo and have not
> caught up reading
> >> >all of them today because of this news that the ARRL
> >> >dropped the ball on Amateur Radio again.
> >> >
> >> >Not one response that I read so far, was in favor of this
> move on any of
> >> >those lists.
> >> >
> >> >So my question is:
> >> >How about we form a League of some kind that will protect
> and represent
> >> >our
> >> >interests as LICENSED Amateur Radio Operators?
> >> >
> >> >Sounds like the unlicensed folks have their League
> already, we just pay
> >> >for
> >> >it annually.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This has been coming for many years. You and I have had
> ample time to yet
> >> the FCC know how we feal about it. The international
> community has gone
> >> this
> >> route and now so do we. The ARRL was not behind a total
> elimination. They
> >> wanted to retain it for Extra Class, so get off the lets
> bash the ARRL.
> >> They
> >> are not correct all the time and neither are you or me, so
> cool it with
> >> the
> >> bashing, grow up.
> >>
> >> When CW was droped from the shipping industry and from the
> military, the
> >> hand writing was on the wall. Freight trains are hard to stop
> >>
> >> What now, USE it, be EXCITED about it, and TEACH it. It
> will last as a
> >> mode
> >> of operation, AM is still here.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, KC4ATU
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> >> > > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Douglas Shock
> >> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:55 PM
> >> > > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]
> >> > >
> >> > > what a shame
> >> > >
> >> > > On 12/15/06, Ken N9VV wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Looks like it is for real!
> >> > > >
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf
> >> > > > de ken n9vv (old CW Dinosaur)
> >> > > >
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