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Re: [TenTec] Ameritron amp issues and looking for a Centaur

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ameritron amp issues and looking for a Centaur
From: Rick Denney <rick@rickdenney.com>
Reply-to: Rick Denney <rwd@iteris.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:56:15 -0400
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX writes...

> Your initial problem was caused by a VHF parasitic oscillation that
> caused failure of the 811A's.  Common faults occurring after a
> massive VHF  oscillation can likely be switch damage on the input
> section or output section of the band switch.  Likely you should see
> evidence of burn marks or melted contacts or maybe contacts that are
> no longer present.

The band switches all look good and test good, with both DC and RF (at
low levels from my MFJ-259) continuity through all bands. The problem
behavior is the same no matter what the position of the band switch.

> Although the 572B's have a higher plate dissipation,  I don't suggest
> replacing 811A's with 572B's as there is no advantage due to power supply
> voltage and current limitations.

I didn't do it to get more power--I know that the amp is constrained
by the power supply. I did it to get graphite plates instead of
sheet-metal plates with those soft, shiny bits in the middle where I
cooked them, heh, heh.

> If you are using the N.O. relay in the Omni to place the amp into transmit,
> yes, you will experience hot switching in the amp.  This is not a QSK amp
> and thus the transceiver should not be operated in the QSK mode.  You will
> have to use manual PTT to accomplish RX to TX switching.

I thought of this later, and that was the reason for my question. The
only time I see the hot switching as a problem is when I use the
"Tune" button. I'm normally using the SSB mode, and as long as I don't
start talking until everything's keyed up, there shouldn't be much
signal making heat when it switches. But I was doing a lot with the
tune button during my testing. Once I get it working again, I will use
the amp-control switch on my foot switch to key the amp.

I would have thought that hot-switching would be primarily visible
with burned contacts on the T/R relay, but there's no evidence of that
and the relay works perfectly. It might have taken out a component,
but dang it there aren't that many components in an AL-811, and I've
tested many of them.

Keeps those cards and letters coming.

73, Rick, KR9D

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