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Re: [TenTec] installing ladder line

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] installing ladder line
From: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:24:29 +0000
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Jerry,

I was addressing my comments to your application, which I assumed - 
maybe wrongly - was a balanced-line-fed multiband doublet.

The balun I referenced is aimed at 160m thru 40m use; but even at the 
22MHz low point the choking impedance is still 1,500 Ohms. Note that the 
chart shows the **common-mode** impedance of the balun - that is not 
related to the differential impedances seen, so you can't assume 
anything from that chart about the load seen by a tuner.

In fact, the tuner would see a load little different from that at the 
end of the balanced line, because the balun itself comprises a *very* 
short series section of balanced transmission line with a Zo of around 
150 Ohms. The ferrite core has NO effect on the TL differential-mode 
performance.

73,
Steve G3TXQ



On 09/11/2010 18:40, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson wrote:
> But Steve, the original post suggesting the balun specifically said 1:4
> impedance ratio to transform open line impedances to a better match in
> coax where the coax is also far more tolerant to bends and close
> proximity to other conducting objects, so the 1:1 may not be all that
> suitable.
>
> I notice in the impedance curve of your 1:1 balun there is a series
> resonance about 22 MHz where the reactance gets low which is precisely
> the condition with a high impedance antenna where a tuner could tune to
> the balun, not the antenna.
>
> 73, Jerry, K0CQ
>
> On 11/9/2010 4:14 AM, Steve Hunt wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> That shouldn't happen with a well-designed 1:1 Guanella Balun, which is
>> the preferred choice for wide-band, wide-impedance-excusion,
>> applications. Unlike a  4:1 Guanella balun or 4:1 Ruthroff balun, the
>> core flux in a 1:1 Guanella balun is not determined directly by the load
>> impedance / differential-mode voltage.
>>
>> Here's an example of what I mean by a well designed 1:1 Guanella balun:
>> http://www.balundesigns.com/servlet/the-98/isolation-choke-balun-common/Detail
>>
>> 73,
>> Steve G3TXQ
>>
>>
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