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Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna
From: Rsoifer@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 08:56:27 -0500 (EST)
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If possible, I'd recommend the counterpoise.
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2010 1:49:40 P.M. GMT Standard Time, kf6e@mail.com  
writes:

I don't  need permission to play, only to erect a basketball backstop.


My  next door neighbor came over one evening and after a little chit-chat, 
asked  me to sign a document.  I asked what it was.  He said it was the  
permission form for him to install a storm door.  I need to get  permission to 
change the color of the shutters on my house, or put down a  piece of drift 
wood as decoration in the garden.


I like the idea of  a spiral-wound antenna with counterpoise as 
wall-mounted flag pole.  I'll  start experimenting with lengths.  If I put the 
remote 
tuner on the  ground behind bushes and run a wire up to the antenna, the 
whole thing would  load.  Do you suppose an eight-foot ground rod right at the 
tuner would  suffice, or would I still need a  counterpoise?


73,
Frank



-----Original  Message-----
From: Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net>
To: Discussion  of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Cc:  kf6e@mail.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 30, 2010 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT:  Indoor Antenna


Frank, you need permission to play basketball?   The flagpole on the wall 
will work. Make the flagstaff out of  fiberglass,  gray PVC conduit, or 
even a varnished broomstick. Spiral  wind wire on it and cover it with 
shrink sleeving. Run a counterpoise wire  down to the ground and around 
the house foundation. Use a remote antenna  tuner. Want a phased array? 
Set up two flagpoles, one with the US flag and  one with the state flag. 
A Hanstick or Hustler mobile antenna will also  work as a flagstaff. The 
MFJ will work but it will be less efficient  because it is base loaded.

Once I put a slinky dipole in the attic as a  backup antenna. It worked 
with a tuner on 80 meters, but it was 10-15 dB  down from my outside 
G5RV. on the other hand, a full size 10 meter dipole  in the attic was 
better than the G5RV because of the inherent feed line  losses and 
mismatch of the G5RV on 10.

How about this  approach:  Get the biggest, meanest SUV you can afford, 
like maybe a  NATO-surplus Daimler-Benz UNIMOG radio truck. Park it in 
the driveway.  Then put the biggest, meanest mobile antenna(s) on it and 
run the feedline  into the house. See, no antennas on the house. HOA will 
be  happy!

Seriously, I hope that you find a way.

73,

Bob WB2VUF

On  11/30/2010 11:04 AM, kf6e@mail.com wrote:
> Thanks.  If flagpoles  were allowed, I'd have a flagpole antenna.  I 
spent 
about a half hour  talking with my lawyer last night,
> and there are no loopholes in VA  law that I could use.  The only flags 
allowed 
in our community are  the type that attach
> to the exterior wall.  I have an MFJ  apartment antenna that I might be 
able to 
disguise that  way.
>
>
>
>   I'm going to apply for  permission to erect a basketball backstop in 
the back 
yard.  The  screwdriver vertical will just fit inside a six-inch PVC  pipe.
>
>
>
> 73,
> Frank
>  KF6E
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Clayton Brantley<clayton_n4ev@yahoo.com>
> To: Discussion of  Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2010  4:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor  Antenna
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>
> This month's QST has a real good article on a  flagpole antenna.
>
> Another article a few years back shows how  to put a Hustler 5BTV inside
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> PVC water  pipe.
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>
>
> Might want to look at those.  Good  luck with the snoops!  Hi.
>
> Might run a bluff citing Dept  of Homeland Security, etc.
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> 73's Clayton  N4EV
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>  ________________________________
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> From:  "Rsoifer@aol.com"<Rsoifer@aol.com>
>
> To:  tentec@contesting.com
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> Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 11:09:35  AM
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor  Antenna
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> Another possible alternative,  depending on your state law, is a flagpole
>
> vertical.   Here in Arizona, state law allows  homeowners to display  the
>
> American flag, military service, POW/MIA, the  state  and Arizona Indian 
nation
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> flags. HOAs may not prohibit  flagpoles, but  may adopt "reasonable rules 
and
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>  regulations regarding the placement and manner  of display" of  flags,
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> including rules regulating the location and size  of  flagpoles (ARS 
33-1808).
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> 73 Ray  W2RS
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> In a message dated  11/29/2010 3:17:14 P.M. GMT Standard Time, 
kf6e@mail.com
>
>  writes:
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> Jim,
>
>
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>  Sounds like good advice.
>
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>
> I  laid out some  ground radials in the back yard and installed a mount  
for
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> my screwdriver  vertical.  I put that up after  dark some evenings, and 
can
>
> work 80 and  160.   Interestingly, the attic dipoles do better on send and
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> receive  for  40 through 10.  The screwdriver vertical does pretty well 
on  80,
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> and  reasonably well on 6 and  2.
>
>
>
> I have been considering an S9-type   vertical, which, being longer, should
>
> be more efficient than  the  screwdriver.  I'm fairly sure I'd never get  
away
>
> with a beam,  though.  My neighbors complain  about just about anything, 
and
>
> there is  even a committee  of the HOA that goes around the entire
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> development every  week  looking for  discrepancies.
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>  Thanks for the  encouragement.
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>  73,
>
> Frank
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>  KF6E
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>  -----Original  Message-----
>
> From:  Jliving39@aol.com
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> To: tentec@contesting.com
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>  Sent:  Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:00 am
>
> Subject: [TenTec] OT:  Indoor  Antenna
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>
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>
>
>  Frank,
>
>
>
> Suggest that you get into  the  Stealth Mode using  the Redneck
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>
>
>  Philosophy of Not Asking  Permission, but Begging Forgiveness if   
Caught.
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> I am
>
>
>
>  sure
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>
>
> you could rig up some kind of outside  antenna.  I  am in a  restricted  
area
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>
>
> and have a 40meter dipole, a 20, 17, 10  meter  fan  dipole, and a six 
meter
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>
>
>  beam outside.  Keep them low  and the associations  won't  bother you.
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> However,
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>
>
> do not  ask  if it is ok.  Simply do   it.
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>
>
> jim,   K4CFA
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