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Re: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance

To: "'Clayton Brantley'" <clayton_n4ev@yahoo.com>, "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:02:02 +0100
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You don't seem to realize that there are those of us who cannot do that.

If you had said "If possible, avoid Windows", then I probably would have agreed.

I promised my XYL for about 10 years before I retired that when we retire, we 
shall switch to Linux.
Well we retired, but I took a part time job in the industry and going pure 
Linux under the circumstances would have been ludicrous.

Keyword here is "middleware".  

There is no such thing as a rule that is right for everyone.
We must always "think" before we react.

I still say, "if" I ever fully retire, I will switch to Unix. (Linux)
We'll see.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Clayton 
Brantley via TenTec
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:04 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance

AVOID WINDOWS PERIOD !!!!!!  

Clayton N4EV

      From: Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
 To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment' <tentec@contesting.com>
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance
   
Phil,

You have dug yourself into a pretty deep hole.

The printers MUST go. PERIOD. 
It's painful perhaps but the time has come.

My pain in migrating to Win7 was, I had to finally give up my Palm Pilot.
:-(
You get over it.

Carl's tip on "32-bit" Windows 7 is important.
You'll stand a much better chance of getting old software and old interfaces 
through (thru adapters) to work than with 64-bit.

AVOID Windows 8.
AVOID Windows 8.

For logging software, I would migrate to a new logging program immediately.
Surely your existing software has a means of exporting the files in one format 
or another.
Initially, look for a freeware logging software that can import whatever format 
your old program can export into.
You can always migrate the software again to a more comfortable program at some 
later date.

Personally, I prefer to purchase off-lease professional (business) computers 
rather than the new stuff in Best Try.
It is not only cheaper, it also usually lasts longer than new consumer products.
HP, Dell, and Lenovo all have business lines of computers, in addition to the 
consumer products they sell in the retail outlets.  They are built with 
"Tier-1" components and their build quality is usually better than that of 
their consumer products "Tier-2" components.  

Most larger cities have at least one store dealing in off-lease computers.
They also have 2nd hand monitors and even printers (with USB) at a reasonable 
price.
This helps save a lot and you always get a short guarantee, so if you do 
encounter an initial problem, you can exchange the device.  This is less risk 
than buying something used on ePray.

I would consider keeping my newest XP computer for one more year, just in case 
I discovered I had forgotten something.
That way there is still hope for recovery.  Just store it in the closet and 
hope you don't need it.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Phil Sussman
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:16 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Cc: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance

I have been researching the replacement of the three XP machines here in the 
shack and the results have been discouraging. None of my programs: word 
processing, spreadsheet, logging, rig interface, and scanner programming is 
compatible with
WIN-7 let alone WIN-8.1.

In addition, my interfaces for the printer(s) [non-serial, but parallel] aren't 
USB compatible either! I currently have five serial interfaces, but my two USB 
ports have yet to operate with serial adapters. I believe this is because my 
USB ports are USB-1 type (just plain old)

Obviously, I do not have an unlimited budget to replace three computers, two 
printers, all the software and still be unable to interface with my rigs.
I've got a JRC JST-145 (interfaced with LOGic) and an ICOM IC-756 pro-II.

Any helpful suggestions welcome.

Thanks ES 73

de Phil - N8PS


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