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Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 156, Issue 4

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 156, Issue 4
From: Jim Allen <jim.allen@longhornband.net>
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:38:41 -0600
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There are also a large number of licensees who never operate on ham bands, 
don't think of themselves as hams, but have licenses because they have a boat 
that goes off shore.  There are a great many with the same address, usually the 
local yacht club.  They use winlink and repeaters some.

I bought a boat from a couple who were both licensed, but they didn't know 
their callsigns.  Those were  taped on the bulkhead by the radio on the boat, 
in phonetics.  There were ~140 licensees in town but barely 2 dozen who were 
"real hams."

73 de W6OGC Jim Allen 

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> On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:09 AM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> 
> Wow, either I lived in the wrong part of the states or things are a lot
> quieter in the north.
> I lived in Oklahoma from 2007 until 2010 and mostly just operated 40m and a
> few bigger contests.
> I also was only on the air on weekends.
> I found the band very crowded.
> 
> I never operated 160 in the states but I do remember 80m being wall to wall,
> especially in the AM days.
> 
> Granted the upper bands are not so crowded, but here in Europe, 80 and 40
> are very tight spaced.
> I almost always run my Eagle with 1.8 kHz on SSB and on CW usually 100 or
> 200 Hz.
> Of course our low bands are smaller than your bands are. Maybe that's why
> they are more crowded.
> 
> On the licensing bit, nearly every ham I know here in Germany also has a
> stateside call sign.
> It's kind of a "in" thing to do.  That also inflates the numbers.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP/NJ0IP/G5BMH
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rob
> Atkinson
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:36 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 156, Issue 4
> 
>> Our bands are way more crowded than they were back in the 70s, the days of
> the Triton IV.
>> Far more hams have amplifiers than back then.
>> Simple crystal filters won't cut it.  They lack the steep skirts of the DSP
> filters.
> 
> I see the complete opposite at least in North America.  The level of
> activity on average on HF is much less than it was 40 years ago.  Back then
> 160 m. was wall to wall at night.  80 m. cw was jammed.  You
> could not find a clear frequency in the evening on 75.   There is a
> myth based on the number of licensees but the total includes SKs, VHF ops,
> EmComms, paper hams, cyber hams, one day wonder test takers on a lark,
> astronauts, XYLs who now operate cell phones, and many other vestigial hams
> and when you subtract all of these, you are down to maybe at most 50,000
> operating active HF hams.
> 
> Now, even QRMtests on weekends don't take out the whole band like they
> used to.  And the sidewalks get rolled up at around 9 p.m.   Tune
> around late and there's almost nothing.
> 
> I operate mostly now with receivers from the 1940s and 1950s.   No
> filters but IF cans.  Maybe a ceramic filter in the 75A-3.  No
> problems.   The problem with making and selling a simple set is that
> it would be impossible to buy production quantities of parts, assemble here
> in the US, and sell at a price competitive with every vintage rig at any
> hamfest flea market.  Sit down and make a rough list of needed parts, go
> looking on Mouser and other vendors and add up the cost.
> add in labor and other overhead and you will quickly see it won't fly.
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Rob
> K5UJ
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