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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 170, Issue 27
From: Jacques Paoli <tk1lg@free.fr>
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:35:05 +0100
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I am trying to download or buy a manual service for settings of a Tentec OMNI 
VII. Thank you

tk1lg

jacques paoli
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Mike's Points (terry foskey)
>   2. OMNI VI FOR SALE not working (David Perrin)
>   3. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (rick@dj0ip.de)
>   4. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (Ron Notarius W3WN)
>   5. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (Barry N1EU)
>   6. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (rick@dj0ip.de)
>   7. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (rick@dj0ip.de)
>   8. Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar        for
>      80/40 dipole. (Katz Ajamas)
>   9. Re: Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or    similar
>      for 80/40 dipole. (rick@dj0ip.de)
>  10. Re: need a KR-50 keyed part (Mike Bryce)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:02:54 +0000 (UTC)
> From: terry foskey <n5tf@yahoo.com>
> To: "TenTec@contesting.com" <TenTec@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Mike's Points
> Message-ID: <17755225.1085075.1487606575000@mail.yahoo.com>
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> All good ideas, well stated.
> N5TF, terry
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:07:27 -0500
> From: David Perrin <dbperrin@gmail.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] OMNI VI FOR SALE not working
> Message-ID: <D623A33C-E286-41AD-92F9-7ED8A63EBF8F@gmail.com>
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> I have a Ten-Tec OMNI VI that isn?t working for sale. Cosmetically it is a 
> 9++. It has the full complement of Roofing filters and the manual.
> 
> $400 here in NH, shipping extra.
> 
> Pictures available.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:18:15 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID: <003001d28b94$f0e97ca0$d2bc75e0$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
> 
> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete the
> heterodyning technology.
> 
> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is just
> as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
> 
> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand.  They spent bundles of bucks on
> marketing.  Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them, albeit with a
> more open approach to software.
> 
> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now the
> talk of the town.
> 
> BUT NO KNOBS?  YUK!
> 
> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
> 
> BINGO!
> 
> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet.  I don't think anyone
> expects it to be that, at its attractive low price.  It just has to be good
> enough and for most people it is.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Moreschi
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> 
> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than anything
> else right now.
> 
> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that are
> not clear to me.
> 
> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of the
> art.  The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
> diminishing.
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
> 
> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
>> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
> excellence?  I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG to
> replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood.  It has an excellent
> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've never
> looked back or regretted my decision.  The 7300 is a great rig, but why not
> give the 590SG some praise also?
>> 
>> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle.  I have one and
> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
> performance and power output.  I think it does an outstanding job.  I also
> have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use strictly for cw
> and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy with it.
>> 
>> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or Argonaut
> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>> 
>> Just my two cents worth.
>> 
>> Scott K4VWK
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>>> To: "tentec@contesting.com"<tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>> 
>>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit.  Thats a stoudt price point when
> comparing to an Icom 7300.
>>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead, Labor
> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit.  Probably
> optimistic numbers.
>>> 
>>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour, you are
> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run.  What can be
> engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding?  Certainly not something
> which is far afield from existing products.
>>> This is my point,  is it better to somehow take this down time, take
> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick R&D
> effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a radio with
> limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to make something
> for next year.
>>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters, Amplifiers,
> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products will
> sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>> 
>>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an Eagle
> purchase.  I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought by
> customers.
>>> N5TF,Terry
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec@contesting.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:20:14 -0600 (CST)
> From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Unfortunately, I have to agree with Mike that there is a perception out in 
> the "real" world that Ten Tec is gone forever.  And Alpha Amplifiers as well, 
> for that matter.
> 
> 
> The so-called "funeral committee" that resides on several public 
> websites/forums, specifically on eHam and QRZ, are constantly posting 
> negative comments about the two companies.  Not a week goes by that either a 
> new forum thread is created, or an older one is resurrected, all to the 
> effect that both firms are gone for good.  No matter how much you counter 
> them with the facts, they are quick to restate the same old rumors, 
> innuendos, and outright lies that they've been saying for months if not years.
> 
> 
> When positive news is posted... such as Rick's email the other night... they 
> are quick to deride it.
> 
> 
> If you get the impression that most of these... posters... are haters, and 
> are waiting with glee for this to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, well, 
> that's at least the impression I have.
> 
> 
> That WE are aware of the situation is not the point.  It's everyone else out 
> there...
> 
> 
> And all of this gets dumped on Mike.  Which is not fair, because he's not the 
> one that did all of the damage... he's the one trying (so far successfully) 
> to undo it.
> 
> 
> Which is why I think that Ten Tec / Alpha / Dishtronix not only needs to make 
> an appearance at the Xenia Hamvention, but have SOMETHING available on the 
> spot for sale.  (Even if the items sell out before the end of the event on 
> Sunday).  Followed up by a PR campaign announcing in some form "We're Back!" 
> or "We're Still Here!" or whatever.  
> 
> 
> Granted, you will never sway those whose minds are already made up and closed 
> to new thoughts, let alone the haters who consider the companies dead, 
> deceased, embalmed, ready to be buried & good riddance.  So forget them.  
> They are a minority.  A vocal and highly obnoxious minority, but a minority 
> nonetheless.
> 
> 
> The time is ripe for a positive PR campaign.
> 
> 
> Besides... when the time comes, if nobody outside of our little group knows 
> that the new Eagles are available, how will they ever buy them?
> 
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:23:28 +0000
> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID:
>       <CAFmfzDv=yAZnx187ER_KdCM7MQePa6f2D09eu+btsc53MNBT+Q@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> FWIW, the ANAN/OpenHPSDR direct sampling radios were out before the Flex
> 6000 series of direct sampling radios.
> 
> Barry N1EU
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> 
>> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete the
>> heterodyning technology.
>> 
>> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is just
>> as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
>> 
>> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand.  They spent bundles of bucks
>> on
>> marketing.  Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them, albeit with a
>> more open approach to software.
>> 
>> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now the
>> talk of the town.
>> 
>> BUT NO KNOBS?  YUK!
>> 
>> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
>> 
>> BINGO!
>> 
>> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet.  I don't think anyone
>> expects it to be that, at its attractive low price.  It just has to be good
>> enough and for most people it is.
>> 
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Moreschi
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>> 
>> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than anything
>> else right now.
>> 
>> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that are
>> not clear to me.
>> 
>> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of the
>> art.  The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
>> diminishing.
>> 
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>> 
>> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
>>> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
>> excellence?  I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG to
>> replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood.  It has an excellent
>> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've never
>> looked back or regretted my decision.  The 7300 is a great rig, but why not
>> give the 590SG some praise also?
>>> 
>>> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle.  I have one and
>> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
>> performance and power output.  I think it does an outstanding job.  I also
>> have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use strictly for
>> cw
>> and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy with it.
>>> 
>>> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or Argonaut
>> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents worth.
>>> 
>>> Scott K4VWK
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>>>> To: "tentec@contesting.com"<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>>> 
>>>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit.  Thats a stoudt price point when
>> comparing to an Icom 7300.
>>>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>>>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead, Labor
>> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit.  Probably
>> optimistic numbers.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour, you are
>> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run.  What can
>> be
>> engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding?  Certainly not something
>> which is far afield from existing products.
>>>> This is my point,  is it better to somehow take this down time, take
>> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick R&D
>> effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a radio
>> with
>> limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to make something
>> for next year.
>>>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters, Amplifiers,
>> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products will
>> sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>>> 
>>>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an Eagle
>> purchase.  I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought by
>> customers.
>>>> N5TF,Terry
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:31:10 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID: <003101d28b96$bf63a6e0$3e2af4a0$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Ron, 
> 
> we have continuously run monthly ads in local magazines showing a picture of
> the Eagle until December 2016 (just 2 months ago).  We will resume running
> the same ad and picture but add "THE EAGLE IS BACK" to the ad.
> 
> People will know. I'll make sure of that, and (I have a BIG mouth!)
> 
> My Spiderbeam group has over 1600 members world-wide, and I am a member of
> several other groups.  I can hit at least 4000 people within an hour.
> 
> And my personal web site is averaging 2000 visitors per day, every day.
> I will make it first page news there.
> 
> Keep the faith!
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ron
> Notarius W3WN
> 
> 
> Besides... when the time comes, if nobody outside of our little group knows
> that the new Eagles are available, how will they ever buy them?
> 
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> _______________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:32:10 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID: <003201d28b96$e2cc70d0$a8655270$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Yes, but FLEX MARKETING $$$ put that technology on the map.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:23 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> 
> FWIW, the ANAN/OpenHPSDR direct sampling radios were out before the Flex
> 6000 series of direct sampling radios.
> 
> Barry N1EU
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> 
>> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete 
>> the heterodyning technology.
>> 
>> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is 
>> just as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
>> 
>> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand.  They spent bundles of 
>> bucks on marketing.  Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them, 
>> albeit with a more open approach to software.
>> 
>> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now 
>> the talk of the town.
>> 
>> BUT NO KNOBS?  YUK!
>> 
>> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
>> 
>> BINGO!
>> 
>> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet.  I don't think 
>> anyone expects it to be that, at its attractive low price.  It just 
>> has to be good enough and for most people it is.
>> 
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl 
>> Moreschi
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>> 
>> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than 
>> anything else right now.
>> 
>> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that 
>> are not clear to me.
>> 
>> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of 
>> the art.  The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly 
>> diminishing.
>> 
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>> 
>> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
>>> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
>> excellence?  I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG 
>> to replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood.  It has an excellent 
>> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've 
>> never looked back or regretted my decision.  The 7300 is a great rig, 
>> but why not give the 590SG some praise also?
>>> 
>>> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle.  I have one 
>>> and
>> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver 
>> performance and power output.  I think it does an outstanding job.  I 
>> also have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use 
>> strictly for cw and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy 
>> with it.
>>> 
>>> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or 
>>> Argonaut
>> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents worth.
>>> 
>>> Scott K4VWK
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>>>> To: "tentec@contesting.com"<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>>> 
>>>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit.  Thats a stoudt price point when
>> comparing to an Icom 7300.
>>>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>>>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead, 
>>>> Labor
>> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit.  Probably 
>> optimistic numbers.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour, 
>>>> you are
>> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run.  What 
>> can be engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding?  Certainly not 
>> something which is far afield from existing products.
>>>> This is my point,  is it better to somehow take this down time, 
>>>> take
>> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick 
>> R&D effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a 
>> radio with limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to 
>> make something for next year.
>>>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters, 
>>>> Amplifiers,
>> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products 
>> will sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>>> 
>>>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an 
>>>> Eagle
>> purchase.  I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought 
>> by customers.
>>>> N5TF,Terry
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>> _______________________________________________
>> TenTec mailing list
>> TenTec@contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:34:30 -0500
> From: Katz Ajamas <ajamas.rn@gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or
>       similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID:
>       <CA+kZa5raz7SttC4bnyR_oab-fwVuiMN0n1h8dfjdmU2hk9O96Q@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Aloha Rick-
> 
> I do not have two clear supports. If I am able to thread a hanging wire
> through the oak's it will turn into a rat's nest with March's first
> windstorm.
> 
> Dr Rick-
> 
> If I had two clear supports, I'd do as you suggest. As things are, an extra
> wire combined with March winds will result in a big wire rat's nest. My
> antennas are threaded through the crowns of some tall oak trees.
> 
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
> 
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> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:26:14 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ
>        or      similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID: <000001d28af6$cd6c2410$68446c30$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> 
> YUK!  Why would you do something silly like that, Bob?
> 
> Why not just a double-dipole with the 40m radiator hung about 2 ft. below
> the 80m radiator?
> And in the meantime, the ONLY way I would address that task is with a simple
> OCF dipole but you need a very special balun/choke design, then it will be
> free (enough) of common mode current.
> 
> Trap = Crap.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Katz Ajamas
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 6:26 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole.
> 
> I want to try an 80/40 trap dipole at the ATL QTH.
> For this, I need some traps!
> I am not keen on coax traps.
> 
> Preference is for some store bought, KW rated, like those used on Hygain
> DP-2BDQ or some nice homebrew (vacuum caps and big coils). Do I need to say
> cheap? :-) $60?
> 
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:48:23 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ
>       or      similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID: <003301d28b99$26dd4c20$7497e460$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Which is why I said I would not choose a fan dipole either.
> Feed your dipole 33.3% from one end, through a 4:1 Ruthroff (voltage) balun
> and immediately through a 1:1 Guanella choke.
> 
> Both easy to wind yourself.  If you tell me how much power you want to run,
> I'll recommend wire, turns count and toroid type.
> 
> You will have an 80/40m dipole the size of an 80m dipole. You can even bend
> the long leg if it is too long.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Katz Ajamas
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:35 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole.
> 
> Aloha Rick-
> 
> I do not have two clear supports. If I am able to thread a hanging wire
> through the oak's it will turn into a rat's nest with March's first
> windstorm.
> 
> Dr Rick-
> 
> If I had two clear supports, I'd do as you suggest. As things are, an extra
> wire combined with March winds will result in a big wire rat's nest. My
> antennas are threaded through the crowns of some tall oak trees.
> 
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:26:14 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ
>        or      similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID: <000001d28af6$cd6c2410$68446c30$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> 
> YUK!  Why would you do something silly like that, Bob?
> 
> Why not just a double-dipole with the 40m radiator hung about 2 ft. below
> the 80m radiator?
> And in the meantime, the ONLY way I would address that task is with a simple
> OCF dipole but you need a very special balun/choke design, then it will be
> free (enough) of common mode current.
> 
> Trap = Crap.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Katz Ajamas
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 6:26 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole.
> 
> I want to try an 80/40 trap dipole at the ATL QTH.
> For this, I need some traps!
> I am not keen on coax traps.
> 
> Preference is for some store bought, KW rated, like those used on Hygain
> DP-2BDQ or some nice homebrew (vacuum caps and big coils). Do I need to say
> cheap? :-) $60?
> 
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:54:55 -0500
> From: Mike Bryce <prosolar@sssnet.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] need a KR-50 keyed part
> Message-ID: <412866E6-6498-4E42-BEF2-E6DD429724FA@sssnet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
> 
> Denton
> 
> I currently have about six of these keyers, but the one I purchased matches 
> the eggshell white of the triton II. It?s missing the paddle.
> 
> Mike, WB8VGE
> 
> 
> Mike Bryce
> prosolar@sssnet.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:33 PM, denton sprague <denton@oregontrail.net> wrote:
>> 
>> would you be willing to settle for the whole keyed? think have one in my TT 
>> stuff box?
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Mike Bryce <prosolar@sssnet.com 
>>> <mailto:prosolar@sssnet.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well guys, the subject line says it all
>>> 
>>> I?m in need of one of the plastic finger pieces used by the KR50 keyer. Any 
>>> one parting out or has one laying around?
>>> 
>>> Thanks?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> WB8VGE
>>> 
>>> Mike, WB8VGE
>>> SunLight Energy Systems
>>> The Heathkit Shop
>>> http://www.theheathkitshop.com/ <http://www.theheathkitshop.com/> 
>>> <http://www.theheathkitshop.com/ <http://www.theheathkitshop.com/>>
>>> J e e p
>>> o|||||||o 
>>> 
>>> A man with one clock knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never 
>>> sure. 
>>> 
>>> 
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