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Re: [TenTec] Titan II Bias issue

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Titan II Bias issue
From: Dukes HiFi <dukeshifi@comcast.net>
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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:57:08 -0500
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The schematic is not wrong.

The circuit is not a full wave rectifier, it is a voltage doubler.

That is why you see 140 DC from a 70m VAC transformer.

Gary


> On Mar 25, 2017, at 7:28 PM, kr7o@vhfdx.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Thank you for the reply.  The amp appears to be working now.  Replaced two 
> failed transistors on the screen board which were biasing the tube on all the 
> time.  Also changed the bias voltage jumper to get the idle current within 
> spec.
> 
> The amp tripped once while doing test tune-ups on each of the bands, so 
> hopefully the tube is not gassy.  I will run it gently for a while until I am 
> confident in the tube and repairs.
> 
> The transformer secondary for the bias circuit is 70vac, so there appears to 
> be a typo in the manual regarding -130v on RX.
> 
> 
> At 04:12 AM 3/23/2017 +0000, you wrote:
>> Hello OM,
>> 
>>  Not familiar with the Titan II, but when my Titan 1 425 failed with
>> the exact same symptoms, the B- bias diode
>> 
>> in the power supply "opened up" and was not supplying bias to the
>> tubes.. Chances are that diode is "open".
>> 
>> 73, Jim W3KA
>> 
>> On 2017-03-21 05:27, kr7o@vhfdx.com wrote:
>> 
>> > I am repairing an amp that was from a friend's estate and have fixed 
>> > several issues, but now when I switch the amp to Operate, considerable 
>> > heat is coming out of the exhaust, so it appears the tube is partially 
>> > biased on all the time.  I have loaded the amp many times up to about 1kw 
>> > output, so I am reasonably confident that the tube is OK.
>> >
>> > According to the manual, the cutoff voltage is supposed to be -130v, but 
>> > with 70vac on the primary into a half wave bridge, I cannot understand 
>> > where they are getting -130v from.  My bias voltage is only -80v in RX.  I 
>> > get up to -95v with the bridge unloaded, which is close to what would be 
>> > expected from a half wave bridge.  The screen voltage supply appears to be 
>> > functioning normally.
>> >
>> > I will admit, I am not much of a tech, but I DO know how to work around 
>> > high voltage and avoid exposed plate voltage unless absolutely necessary.  
>> > I have gotten this far, and would love to get this amp running if anyone 
>> > has experience with this amp and does not mind helping me sort this out.  
>> > I have more history and measurements, but I will spare the list.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > 73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
>> > DXCC  6M #1122
>> > WAZ  6M #112
>> > VUCC  6M, 2M
>> >
>> > www.vhfdx.com [1] (KR7O/YB2ARO pages)
>> > Looking for old VHF QSL cards and logbooks.
>> >
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> 73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
> DXCC  6M #1122
> WAZ  6M #112
> VUCC  6M, 2M
> 
> www.vhfdx.com (KR7O/YB2ARO pages)
> Looking for old VHF QSL cards and logbooks.
> 
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